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M1ghtyDUck
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Restricted bikes get better mpg? Reply with quote

Hey,

I've had my NSR125R1 (2001 model) for about 6 months now. It's the swiss import one, still restricted.

Up until recently I'd just fill it up every time I'd done around 150 miles. It was never empty, and I only had it on reserve once, so I never really knew how far it could go on a tank. For some reason I have in my head that it's a 10 litre tank (8 + 2 reserve), but I might be wrong.

In any case, last couple weeks I've decided to let it run down to reserve from full to see how many miles I get per gallon. So far I've got 180 miles, and not hit reserve yet! This means I'm at AT LEAST 102mpg.. and considering all my riding is harsh and stop/start, (I'm a learner having fun and have a very trafficky commute, no long cruise motorways or anything) it means one of 2 things.

1) My nsr gets incredible mileage to the gallon (leading me to think restricted ones get better mileage, best quotes I've seen for mileage are 90mpg at the max)

2) I'm dumb, and I've got my fuel tank size or something wrong. I don't think so though, because when I fill it up when I think its close to reserve I can only pack in about 7 1/2 litres.. which fits in with the 8 litre main and 10 litre total idea.

So what's going on? Is my bike really getting this good mileage?

Not that I'm complaining.

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PostPosted: 19:29 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure the mileage isn't km/h?
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The speedo's in mph. Is there any chance the odometer reads km despite that?

EDIT* That would make more sense though, gives me more like 70mpg at the moment (though possibly more because I'm not on reserve yet)
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
The speedo's in mph. Is there any chance the odometer reads km despite that?

EDIT* That would make more sense though, gives me more like 70mpg at the moment (though possibly more because I'm not on reserve yet)


It's entirely possible! My old bike was like that. The clocks are still Kph but the clock number insert has been replaced with a Mph one.

If you drive a car you could measure a mile from your house and then check it next time your on the bike, otherwise you can try and judge it using road signs or a friend on another bike etc....
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only seem to get about 110 miles out of my NSR before I have to hit the reserve and limp to a petrol station. Dunno how big the tank is, but it costs me just under a tenner to fill it up (although never from "true" empty).

Most of my riding is full throttle back roads and my bikes restricted. I dunno what kind of MPG I'm getting but I guess I get about 110 miles from about 9.5 litres.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
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This has the frame number ZDCJC22E******

This has a load of restrictions and is nearly impossible to derestrict and cannot even rev past 7500rpm.


Quote:

Torque: 1,98 Kpm/9000 rpm (unrestricted)
Power: 31 hp/10250 rpm (unrestricted)


So with a 11K red line you are not getting near to the power area.


MPG is

miles done / ltr on the pump X 4.55 = MPG


So if you managed 180 mile on 7.5ltr

180/7.5=24*4.55=109.2 miles.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 27 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well either someone's had a go at some part of my bikes restrictions or that information's wrong. My bike sails past 7500rpm (ok not sails, but revs way past it before it starts complaining). And mine definitely says JC22E on the side.

Why is the power stuff relevant anyway? Were you answering my question of fuel efficiency? If so I don't quite follow? Are you saying that because I don't get in near the "power area" I use up more or less fuel?


Yeah that's the sort of factoring I was doing, but I think it's more like 180km rather than miles. And the tank isn't empty anyway.
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 28 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more power an engine makes, the more fuel it uses to make it. Simple math.

Let's say your NSR gets 70mpg. It makes 31hp. That's totally unrestricted.
If it's getting 109mpg you're using only 2/3 the fuel. That means you're getting about 2/3 the power. Or about 20HP.

Am I close? Or completely off the map as usual?

If you want to debate over the factors involved: drag, weight, real HP, RPM, etc, I'm not gonna argue. This is all just being vague attempt to figure out why his bike gets such excellent milage.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 28 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I would agree with the idea that the more power an engine makes, the more fuel, but that's over a set period of time. It stands to reason that more power also makes you go faster, so you're using fuel for less time. It's just whether that balance swings it in the way of using more fuel or less fuel? Someone will know I'm sure.

In any case, thanks for your attempts to help. Appreciate it. I have a sneaky feeling however that the odometer is in km, seeing as its a swiss import, and has just had the mph speedo plate put it. This means I'll have a bit of math to do every now and then, but also knocks about a third off the mileage of my bike! Woohaa!!
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 28 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravo wrote:
The more power an engine makes, the more fuel it uses to make it. Simple math.



Maths! Rolling Eyes Feckin yanks! Anyway its not maths its chemistry/physics.

M1ghtyDUck wrote:


In any case, thanks for your attempts to help. Appreciate it. I have a sneaky feeling however that the odometer is in km, seeing as its a swiss import, and has just had the mph speedo plate put it. This means I'll have a bit of math to do every now and then, but also knocks about a third off the mileage of my bike! Woohaa!!


Maths FFS!

Get one of your American buddies to ride next to you for a mile then compare your odometer with his/hers. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 28 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ghtyDUck wrote:
Well, I would agree with the idea that the more power an engine makes, the more fuel, but that's over a set period of time. It stands to reason that more power also makes you go faster, so you're using fuel for less time. It's just whether that balance swings it in the way of using more fuel or less fuel? Someone will know I'm sure.

Don't think in terms of a set period of time, think of a set distance.

Assuming constant gearing,and disregarding clutch slip, it's going to take exaclty the same number of revolutions of the engine to cover a set distance, regardless of the speed you do it at.

As fuel consumption is miles per gallon, and it uses more fuel per rev to go fast, fuel consumption is better the slower you go.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 28 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be cus of the restrictors you can't wring its neck and thus burn more fuel ,

A common complaint with anybody and everybody who has ridden with me is that I absolutely devastate fuel, the Longridge Clitheroe route ridden mildly should take only 8-9 litres , ridden hard it can eat up to 19 litres Gman always complains about this. Very Happy
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