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stan hyd
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Footpath parking? Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Just brough back my bike from portsmouth to the big smog that is london for the first time.

My question is this. I have parked the biked on the pavement which is very wide so that I can lock the bike to the lampost.

Whats the rules on this sort of thing and could I get a ticket
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there are any restriction that stop you parking on the road, then they still appy on the pavement.
That seems to be the general rule.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only restrictions on the road are that you have to be a permitt holder.

would i need a permit to park a bike?
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most places nowadays it is an offence to park on the pavement anyway as its obstruction.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

London is worse than the rest of the country at handing out tickets.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parking on the pavement is not permitted unless there are specific roadside signs indicating that it is permitted - so yes, you could very well get a ticket (with a code 62 presumably).
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i once parked in a permit parking, got a ticket... wher do you put a permit on a bike?

i also did the same thing recently, but parked on a pavement of a permit parking area... the car in the parking got a ticket, i did not Very Happy

what is fucking hilarious though, my bike doesnt say GSXR on it anywhere (its the 400) it does however have a visordown sticker on it...

so on the ticket they wrote 'SUZUKI VISORDOWN'
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id be carefull locking it to the lamp-post. I was parked on the road, but managed to lock the bike to the lampost (Brighton) came back the next day, bike was there but the lock had gone Confused Exclamation
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hung at first light. Then fined for leaving your own body for others to clear up.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen people chaining them up to standard bike stands in town here.

If you do get a ticket from a parking machine, where would you put it? surely some unscrupulous driver could just nab it and stick it in their car?
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stan hyd wrote:
the only restrictions on the road are that you have to be a permitt holder.

would i need a permit to park a bike?

Depends on the borough. Sadly, London does not have a London-wide parking policy, certainly not for bikes. Some boroughs allow bikes to park anywhere, some in P&D bays (some only if you've got a residents' permit), some only in bike bays. You need to check first. I was going to say that only bike bays are a safe bet, but Westminster is charging for those now, too...

Parking on the pavement is not allowed anywhere in London and with fines up to £120, it's not worth risking it.

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If you do get a ticket from a parking machine, where would you put it? surely some unscrupulous driver could just nab it and stick it in their car?

Some machines give counterfolds, which you'll keep to prove you did buy a ticket.

If you only get one, write 'motorcycle' and your plate number on it, take a pic of it on your bike, or if it's got a reference number, make a note of this (e.g., by saving it on your mobile). So, if somebody does nick your ticket (not that they can use it, as you've put your plate on it), you can prove in the appeal that you had it.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your best bet is asking one of those wankers who deal out the tickets to see if its ok, fuckin scum, was late by 5 mins out of the dentist here in wigan and my mum got a ticket because the timer on the fuckin ticket machin was wrong and dentists fuckin slow, pure utter money robbing twats imo. Get a real job!
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
Your best bet is asking one of those wankers who deal out the tickets to see if its ok...

That's the worst thing you can do, as they'll lie. They'll tell you it's OK, then as you've left, they'll put a ticket on your bike.

They're on a commission, you see. Incentive schemes, they're called... In Kensington & Chelsea, they have to issue ten tickets a day to keep their jobs, and in Westminster, the person who issues the most tickets a month gets a TV or a trip to the Caribbeans, etc.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 31 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't listen to couriers tell you about if you cover the numberplate over, they are not able to issue you with a ticket, cos they can still read the number of the engine.

In fact, don't listen to couriers tall stories at all. Parking attendants have so many ways of getting round it, they somehow manage to ticket covered bikes.

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PostPosted: 00:16 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can remove anything covering the plates. Previously, they had to get a copper to do this, but now they've been given this power. Something to do with terrorism, apparently. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
They can remove anything covering the plates. Previously, they had to get a copper to do this, but now they've been given this power. Something to do with terrorism, apparently. Rolling Eyes


Ah bugger. I'll have to take my numberplate mounted nuclear bomb device back to the drawing room!
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Paivi says, London has different rules for different boroughs. For example, in the borough I live in M/B's can park for free in any marked bays, (excluding loading, doctors etc) whilst literally across the road in the neighboring borough you have to have a residents permit for your specific bay, buy a P&D ticket for those bays or use a bike bay. Chaining your bike to street furniture is also not allowed whether or not you're on the road or the pavement and pavement parking is not allowed unless, (and this is a tricky one ) you can park inside a building line, ie. that piece of pavement that belongs to the building and not the council.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

crickey Parking in London is even more complicated for bikes than cars Sad
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I remember the days when you could park a bike almost any where. Not so now and with so many more bikes on the road, (in London partly due to the congestion charges) those few places where you can park are like gold dust in popular areas and at peak times.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

leiba1 wrote:
pavement parking is not allowed unless, (and this is a tricky one ) you can park inside a building line, ie. that piece of pavement that belongs to the building and not the council.

Which of course, you need to see the planning permissions for to see where the line goes... Even then, if it impedes access for wheelchairs or pushchairs, you're not allowed to park.

Basically, it's a jungle out here! Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parking with one or more wheels on the pavement is a specific offence BUT if the building you have parked it outside has a private forecourt (a section that makes the path wider, which is part of the building plot's footprint) then often these are private property and you can park there without incurring a ticket. Often these areas have panels of glass blocks set in them so that can be smashed to let smoke out if there's a fire.

The fact that you have chained to a lamp-post says that this is unlikely in your case.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to be more finicky on this one, you're not allowed to drive over the pavement either, you have to walk/push the bike to it's spot (front gardens etc included). I once used to park on the pavement outside my local Tesco, next to the trolley bay and definitely Tesco frontage. The warden firstly tried to ticket me for pavement parking but had to abandon that when he was told it wasn't 'his' bit of pavement. He then stood there waiting, camera in hand, to catch me driving off over the pavement. He failed there too.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He failed there too.


I would have taken his camera and driven over it.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
BUT if the building you have parked it outside has a private forecourt (a section that makes the path wider, which is part of the building plot's footprint) then often these are private property and you can park there without incurring a ticket. Often these areas have panels of glass blocks set in them so that can be smashed to let smoke out if there's a fire.


Not so sure you can even get away with that, these days.

Several weeks ago, I parked the bike in a similar frontage of the shop next to where I work (in, of course, Westminster Rolling Eyes ) ... and a pack of Polish dustmen came along and told me to move it, as it was dangerous for them doing the rubbish collection, else they would arrange to have it towed away.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 01 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I park outside my barbers when im getting a haircut, it has the afformentioned square glass floor, with just enough space for one bike, they tell me its part of their shop, and i have never been hasseled there.

But then at work i have been ticketed for parking on a pavement for no more than 2 mins. Bike bays were full, parked the bike completely out the way of anything against a greyed out shop window,went inside to pick up, out within 2 mins, the warden was already half way down the road and a ticket on my mirror by the time i got out. It was a slow day and that cunt cost me a days wages, i rode around all day thinking, im not even getting paid for this... Evil or Very Mad

Westminster wardens are just arrogant cunts, hungry for nothing else but dishing as many tickets as possible... If in doubt ticket it. Most of the time they have an arrogant swagger walking their patch, leisurely crossing the road, all over the shop. They soon run out the way when you give it a handfull of revs Wink (small but satisfying revenge).

Also they got ones that ride 125 Peds, Honda Dylans and whatnot, I'd imagine a CBT was all thats needed, they ride horribly, and park illegally on the pavement themselves while issuing tickets. I have come to blows with one such ped-warden. Again Cunts.

Then you have boroughs like Brent, sitting on the bike the other day with my 2 Pound chicken burger meal from Sams Chicken on Willesden High Road (NW10), which is incidentally one of the better chicken shops in london... A black-uniformed brent warden (westminster are shitty purple/dayglow) was walking towards me on the other side of this quiet side road. I was giving him the look reserved for traffic wardens and their ilk, but it turns out he was a fairly relaxed guy, told me hes paid a wage regardless of tickets issued so will only really ticket for yellow lines. Its just a big gamble parking in london, us who live and work here tend to find little cubby holes where the laws dont apply Smile.



Conclusion:
Dont park on the pavement in london unless you MUST, and westminster traffic wardens are scum.
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