Want your Dole money? Then work for it

Shay HTFC · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Karma :

What does everyone think about the tories new idea to make people on the dole do community service?

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7176032.stm

Personally I think its a good idea. There are some potential issues, but overall its definitely a step forward in getting people who are consigned to a jobless life, back up onto their feet.

The ones who want to work will not mind doing community service providing they still have the opportunity to apply for jobs etc, but the ones who stay at home without even wanting to work will have to at least earn their keep which is only fair.

There are other sides to the coin such as single mothers with young children etc, but providing the community service has an option of being completed during school hours,then I can't see a problem with that.

What does everyone think?

veeeffarr · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Karma :

Why don't they make people on the dole get a fucking job instead?

Shay HTFC · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Karma :

I was looking through that BBC Have Your Say and someone actually posted:

cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

I tend to agree with Toby R, make them to get a job instead. IMO it just proves how liberal-leftie the Conservatives really are.

How about this? Pull all JSA claimants into the office, tell them to get a job within two months or they will be sent on training courses to learn a trade.

Regards

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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Yeah, it's a great idea. Get all the immigrants doing the real work for a pittance and get all the brits doing community service for slave-labour rates. Rolling Eyes

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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Nah, once the lazy b'stards are working in proper jobs, the immigrants could take their savings back to their EU homelands and find new jobs or start business'. Can you imagine that? A country with almost full employment, plenty of housing and low taxation.

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

When the govt respects the people, the people will respect the govt. Until then some people will try it on until the cows come home, and everyone else will behave but harbour massive resentment. Except for that tiny minority that enjoys being fvcked in the arse.
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D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Personally I would like to see a finite length of benefit - say 2 months, then it stops. No more than two incidences of unemployment each year.

If they then commit crime rather than better themselves and get a job, then off to the prisons, which I would have them work everyday doing unskilled tasks.

You will contribute some way.

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

I'd like to see all the jobs being done by immigrants and the entire brit workforce sitting on it's collective arse living off the taxes paid by the immigrants. If they didn't like it they could fvck off back to their own shit-holes of course. Fvcking scabs that they effectively are.
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TheShaggyDA · Repost Police Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

It's funny how they want us to focus on the welfare system, pointing out all the bad people who are bleeding us dry of our hard earned cash, but in comparison it's a pittance...

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What a suprise, big companies the rich and the government are more prolific fraudsters than the peons.

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Rookie · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Karma :

What about people who are on the dole for legitimate reaons though? My stepdad was on the dole for about 9 years because his daughters had severe allergies and was wrapped up in bandages because her skin was literally falling off. She needed round the clock care and a job was out of the question. He couldn't have just left her alone while he went for his community service to earn the dole money.

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Oh and to the OP, although it sounds a good idea everybody gets old, and there is rampant age discrimination in the work place.

Who says you won't need it one day? , life maybe sweet now but change happens. And its an economic downturn a big one coming up too to boot.

While I am still young if I am out of work I can do something manual as said I used to pack meat of which BWFC stated was pretty gross. But when I'm 50 ...60? , who says I will still be able to do this sort of thing?.

Though this would of course fit in better with the contributory pot idea ie people who have paid in can take out, thus it doesn't punish those who are put on the scrap heap.
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YUN · Traffic Copper Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Karma :

I believe that everyone should be making some sort of contribution to society. If its not by working and holding a job, then some sort of other scheme such as community service.

Every month the excitement of opening your wage slip just sinks after you read the next column that is TAX.
You get more outrage when you come back from work and you see the SAME chav's, tramps, refugee's, immigrants (or the equivalent) hassling you for 10p so they can make a call, as they are lost, need to catch a bus, need to feed their starving children etc.
I'd feel sorry for them if this was the case. however I refuse to believe someone sporting the latest trainers, jewellery (even if it IS from gypo Argos) dangling from neck,ears, nose, fingers AND have a set of shiny gold teeth need "10p" - fucking go to the dentist and get them to take out one of the caps and sell it!!!
I have no doubt in my mind that these are worthless benefit milkers who input nothing to society and just a burden and leeching off hard working tax payers.
Why should everyone else suffer and have to pay for you becos
a) you can't be asked to work - NO1 wants to fucking work, we just have to
b) have a baby "cos i'm lonely and i love kids", making everyone else pay for your FREE HSE and child benefits etc - then going on to TV programs such as Trisha to complain hw life is unfair and ur left pregnant by your alcoholic BF. The failure to use a condom, trying to hold onto ur BF who clearly doesn't love u is YOUR own problem. Allow making US empty money from our wallets to pay for YOUR mistake.
c) immigrants/refugees who come to the country and DO nothing!! Fine, your home country is mash up...but don't use our country's benefits to pay for 'wrench' to rob houses, cars etc, to go on ebay to buy equipment to make suicide bombs. Not ONLY are you a parasite to society, ungrateful that we as a country are contributing to you being alive.....but you pay us all back by KILLING us innocent peeps.

At the end of the day.....there will be people that NEED help and thorough investigations should be followed to ensure that these aren't just benefit cheaters.

There's no excuse to not being able to get a job. Complain that you don't have enough money and thinking about living on benefits? well u fucking should've worked harder in school. People should stop using terms such as "i'm dyslexic" as an excuse that you didn't do well in school.....there are other manual courses such as plumbing, electrician, hair and beauty that doesn't require the necessary school qualifications.

At an early age I was constantly asked "what i'd like to be when I grow up"....tho i didn't have an answer......I think most people would've thought having a JOB was related to that dream. No1 wakes up and ACTUALLY pursues their "dream" of living on benefits for the rest of their sordid lives.

Either contribute to society or get out!!

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craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

IMO most people on incapacity benefit could work. If you have a physical ailament then get an office job, or work in a call center. Peole who moan that they can't get work because their back is fucked (lol, not digging at R1Stu Laughing

) can seemingly sit fine in front of a PC to type on a form so make the bastards work inthe call centers so we don;t have to put up with fucking Indians dealing with UK calls,especially when their english training comes from re runs of coronation street.