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PostPosted: 19:58 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: GS500 vs CB500 vs ER5 Reply with quote

I'm still looking for some kind of commuter bike and I've decided I'll probably opt for one of the above. I've read this https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=281300#281300 but I'm still a bit undecided.

Basically, the cheaper to run (and more reliable), the better. I know the CB500 has the better build quality of the 3, but I cannot find any right now (I guess most commuters have been bought up as winter hacks).

My local dealer has a GS500 for sale (it's a 1996 model with with 26700 miles), but a bit overpriced in my opinion at £1295 - I was thinking £850-£900 would be a fairer price (unless anyone thinks differently), so that's one option I was thinking.

I also spoke to my old bike instructor who has just bought a couple of new ER-6's, so he may be interested in selling his old ER-5's if the price is right (not sure of mileage - he has a P-reg and an S-reg one).

Whatever I get will probably see a bit of road salt, but I don't have a problem with giving a bike a quick hose down when I get home each evening. I know the CB500's are bullet proof, but how long are the GS500's and ER-5's likely to last with following the maintenance suggested in the service book?

I've also read to watch out for rust on the frame (as well as a few other places) of the GS500, but I've also heard that they have aluminium frames. So, which do they have? Steel or aluminium?

So, really, which would you guys personally go for? ER-5, GS500, or keep looking for a CB500?

Sorry for all of the questions, but I would be interested in people's thoughts and opinions. Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd keep looking for a CB5.

I wouldn't spent over £750 for any of them.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owned the er5 and cb500, rode a gs500. CB is definetely the quickest with the best engine. MPG wise, the cb500 wasn't as good as my er5. The finish I had on my CB wasn't great to be honest, don't fall for the honda => must be pristine after 10 years trick. Purely depends on the previous owner and how they've looked after the machine.

I'd say go for the cb500.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look harder I reckon , CB500 is where its at, GT550s are even cheaper even more indestructable but maintenance wise are a bit higher.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a GS I'm not a fan of it yet.

Mine had 31k on it and I paid £700 for it, it seemed all right good nick. I knew it would need Braided hoses on the front, and eventually new tires.

It has been like a nasty suprise at every turn, the clutch went 200 miles later. The C&S was fucked as the front sprocket was loose in every way imaginable.

All of this has just been reolved, and has sofar cost me nearly £300 ontop of the £700 I still have tyres to buy.

The bike handles worse than anything I have ever ridden including my RXS100. This could be due to the tires but I think it maybe the fact I'm use to the Speed Four which is one of the best handling bikes in the world.

The finsih aint to bad on a 9 year old bike with 31k on it, the engine is sweet and starts on the button.

Alot of my experiance with the GS may have been down to bad luck.

Remember the little things add up C&S £100, Tires £170 etc.

I would go for the CB, honda build quality and all that.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it's a fairly unanimous verdict so far!

Itchy wrote:
Look harder I reckon , CB500 is where its at, GT550s are even cheaper even more indestructable but maintenance wise are a bit higher.


It's funny you mention the GT550... there's a guy down the road selling one. It's a bit tatty and I don't know much about it really. I would have gone straight for it, but I was thinking being a 4cylinder, it would be a bit more thirsty on the juice than the twins. I'm really aiming to get around 60mpg (My commute is 25 miles of boring, straight dual carriageway and a big, wide straight main road, so fairly easygoing). Or does anyone think that it might actually achieve this kind of mpg?

Thanks for everyone's input! I really appreciate it!
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuel consumption isn't directly related to cylinders; ie on litre sports bikes, twins tend to have a fair bit worse fuel consumption.

However, a quick google suggests the GT isn't that great.

Rather than looking for a specific model, I reckon it's best to just keep an eye out for the best value bike you can find; ie best condition for the money you can afford.

Any of these bikes should go on for a long time if they are treated well.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dabigginger wrote:
I guess it's a fairly unanimous verdict so far!

It's funny you mention the GT550...
Thanks for everyone's input! I really appreciate it!


You do mean the Kwak GT550 not the older Suzi 550 don't you?.

GT550's are pretty hardy couriers can't kill them , which is a resounding endorsement I've seen one with 300K on it and he had the videos on his phone when it went at 99k 199K etc.

Its shaft drive goodness,

but has various vices:

They are comparatively heavy compared to the CB,GS and ER,

Theyt are supposed to be harsh on brakes discs needing replacement every 30K, though you can buy thicker ones and not use HH pads.

The sound utterly awful with a CCT problem which just sounds bad but its pretty normal.

carb rubbers can split and are virtually irreplacable , cept a guy in Mancs does replacements.

However if its been inside the M25 its probably been ridden into the ground.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd keep looking for a CB500 but don't rule out a GS500 at all. The engines are fantastic for a commuter bike. I had real fun on mine too. Mine was an S reg bike with less than 15K on the clock and cost £925. I got £1000 for it in PX when I bought the Bandit 650
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the GPZ500S?
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomsmith wrote:
what about the GPZ500S?


Indeed. Faster than any of them if pushed, belly pan to keep the crap off the engine. Bikini fairing to keep the crap off yourself.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't turn one down, but I've seen even fewer of these than the CB500's! In fact, the only GPZ I can think of seeing in recent months is owned by someone in a town about 10 miles from here!
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a great time on my gpz, glad i chose it over the likes of the cb500 etc.

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PostPosted: 23:12 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking... just not a lot in my area right now... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, you do have to travel to find the bike you want. I went from coventry to swansea for my gpz. It was a bargain tho.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 14 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode a ratty GS500 for a year, paid 250 quid for it and got my moneys worth out of it.

I have ridden both the CB500's and GPZ's but not for as long as the GS500.

The GS500 is the Cheap Option

The CB500 is the Reliable Option

The GPZ500 is the Sporty Option

I can vouch for the excellence of Bridgestone BT-45's on the GS and CB.

My advice would be dont commit to one bike, buy whichever you can find the best example of in your price range...

Saying that, as for me now reliability is the trump card if a CB500 comes along at the right price and in the right nick then go for it.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 15 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
I rode a ratty GS500 for a year, paid 250 quid for it and got my moneys worth out of it.

I have ridden both the CB500's and GPZ's but not for as long as the GS500.

The GS500 is the Cheap Option

The CB500 is the Reliable Option

The GPZ500 is the Sporty Option

I can vouch for the excellence of Bridgestone BT-45's on the GS and CB.

My advice would be dont commit to one bike, buy whichever you can find the best example of in your price range...

Saying that, as for me now reliability is the trump card if a CB500 comes along at the right price and in the right nick then go for it.


What was the life like on the BT45's I'm about to get a set for my GS, I only really use it for the commute.
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 15 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What was the life like on the BT45's I'm about to get a set for my GS, I only really use it for the commute.


Ooh it was a while ago, they lasted long enough, if i gave you a number i would be pulling it out of my ass... so lets say 5-12k for the rear and a shitload for the front... Two rears for one front.

They do square off if you are doing alot of straight up commuting, even with that small niggle i wouldent get anything else on a GS500... A wise choice chris...

Also looking at your location on the map, if you want a really good place to fit them either Essential Rubber in N1. Or

https://www.motorcycletyresuk.com/index2.htm Who deliver next day i think and do a good ride in/ride out service in Romford.
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 15 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the advice, but I know a guy that gets me good deals, ride in ride out with a pair of BT014's 120/17 180/17 £177
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 15 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT45's on the gpz too, fantastic tyres, even in the wet.

I know of a person was lapping a roundabout on a gpz with bt45's. all was good until the said person had their belly pan down on the tarmac.....

I think there is only one better tyre, and i think thy are BT101's. But you dont need the at all.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 15 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to go with the crowd on this and say CB500 on BT-45s. The one I was on last winter was awesome. Surefooted, reliable and rugged

CB500-s with the fairing if you can find one. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 23 Jan 2008    Post subject: bt's or... Reply with quote

If you need 'small' tyres for a 500, there's the Michelin Pilot Activs. Not everywhere stocks them but i've tried them and they do justify the £30 hike over BT45s. In my opinion. Especially in the summer.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 23 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a gs500 and apart from a starter relay going it never missed a beat in the 30000 miles i did on it,
i did change the rear shock to a sv650 shock basically with in a week of owning it which sorted the rear end wallowing, and eventually change the front end to a gsxr750 more for the look and the extra braking power than anything else, i also put a bandit 6 wheel on the rear to get more tyre options
i cant fault the gs, i wish i still had it for my daily commute,
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 23 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? I wonder if they come small enough for the GB?

Based on thier performance on the CB500 I was going to fit BT45s
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 23 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bit steep for a GS! I only wanted like 2-300 quid for mine! Mind you needs a bit spent on it to get running well Very Happy
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