Death penalty - methods of execution

[McJamweasel]

First, let me start by saying that this post is not aimed as discussing the rights and wrongs of the death penalty, merely the methods of execution should someone be sentenced to death.

I've just watched a very interesting program on BBC2 about Michael Portillo trying to find the 'perfect' method of execution. His definition of perfect being humane, painless.

He examined the current methods used in the west (well, the US) and found them all to be lacking in one way or another. He then investigated a couple of other ways and settles on Hypoxia by exposure to nitrogen as being the one. You have a feeling of euphoria followed quickly by unconsciousness and then death.

However, when Portillo put this to one American expert on execution he was informed basically that it wasn't perfect as the prisoner would feel no pain, that punishment is supposed to be painful in order for it be a proper punishment and for the victims/victims family to get 'justice'.

Portillo then gave a very convincing argument against this, basically that for justice to be served the state should stay as far away from 'murder' as possible, that no pain should be caused. In essence, that the state should retain the moral high ground and refrain from revenge.

Thoughts?
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Professional drop Hanging which was this country's method of execution, perfect calculated drop will insure painless snap of the neck and instant death.
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[Itchy]

But watching Louis Theroux's visit to San Quentin prison , even the prisoners who were in there for life could carve out a megre existance and make the best of their lot and even surprisingly have 'good moments' say 1/500 of the time = good time

And if you look at life there is an awful lot of bad time compared to good time. Strange thing is people enter into such indentured servitude upon their own volition. say 2/7 days = good time.

Thus I think the death bit is less punishment but the fact that it removes any opportunity for any of the good bits you may experience in life.

Thus in my view of the world pain or lack of it doesn't matter that much.
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[JonB]

For some reason I clicked "Slow, Painful death", cause I was thinking of hanging in the sense of asphixiation as a means of death, but remembered shortly after that people weren't hung for this reason.

I think the pain and suffering caused to a victims family should be inflicted on the criminal as a means of "even playing fields".

Perhaps i'm just a mean young man who wants evil people who commit rape, paedophilia and unrepentant, unprovoked murder to suffer in the worst way possible.
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[bazza]

If you're administering justice - A quick, painless, humane death.

If you're seeking revenge - A slow, painful death.
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[Itchy]

[Finglonga]

Depends on the crime . . . Murder then the gas chamber or lethal injection. Wearing anything Burberry then it can only be the noose.
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[TheShaggyDA]

How about a large silo, maybe about 40' high, hatch at the top. Drop them in naked. When the pile's about 10' from the top, top it up with straw and dump in a few buckets of worms. After a few weeks sell the compost. Rinse and repeat.
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[Silver]

It's supposed to be quick and painless. Hanging was screwed up far too often to fit into that category. The electric chair doesn't look like much fun either and neither's the lethal injection when you read how your body slowly shuts down.

Still, if you want to go down the slow, painful route: Hanged, drawn and quartered:

1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution.
2. Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead.
3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned's eyes.
4. Beheaded and the body divided into four parts.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Given the pschological effect of waiting weeks for someone to kill you, the short pain is probably the least of their worries.

All the best

Keith
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[Itchy]

[Itchy]

[Silver]

Maybe they were just really bad aims...

Shotgun for teh win, I suspect.

[Ben.]

i think it should be the victims choice.

If someone killed my family then i should choose the punishment, and visa versa
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[Ben.]

the trouble with a gun to head, is getting the stem.

temple is not a guaranteed kill, and neither is in the roof of your mouth.
Obviously if you wanted to have a crack at killing your self i would suggest the shotgun, but this is not perfect, make sure you mount it against a wall, so that the kickback doesnt make the gun slip, aim in the mouth, sure fire way to go.

If using a hand gun, the 2 best methods are:
1. The eye - although for obvious reasons people dont like that 1
2. The ear

These two methods are pretty much guaranteed instant death. As its the tip of the spinal cord you aiming for, and not just the head.

Air into the vein is another common myth, it doesnt kill you, well it can, but you need a syringe full of air something like 1/2 a litre to kill you...

happy suicide attempts
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[McGee]

A shot to the vermilion line (sp) servers the spinal cord from the brain.

Thus a head shot can be instant.

Snipers etc
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[Itchy]

gigantic dose of insulin? , which'd cause hypoglycimea , which effectively is like Carbon monoxide poisoning you feel really tired go sleep , and not wake up.
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[cestrian]

I don't like to see anyone die but to answer the question, I believe the punishment should fit the crime.
For premeditated murder the perp should fully understand that the pain he/she is feeling is because they are about to die sometime soon.
For manslaughter, either death after X years, or life imprisonment, perps choice. Only one chance to make a decision, no chance to change your mind later. To me, life means LIFE, mostly solitary.
Someone mentioned paeds and rapists, they get life.