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PostPosted: 16:09 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike gloves have less pading on the fingers/palms to give better feel for controls switches.
Welding gloves are shite at keeping dry and can't be secured to your hand.
Bike gloves should be fastened so they cannot be dragged off it you are sliding down the road.


Not a good solution IMO.

Pair of gloves cost about £50

Skin to cover a Pair of hands Priceless. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welding gloves are good for welding. But I couldn't ride in mine and I bet that in a crash they would just fly off due to the fact they are so loose!

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PostPosted: 16:27 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would bike gloves be good for welding in?
No.
Welding gloves therefore are not good for riding in.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used bike gloves for welding ok.

I wouldn't really use welding gloves on the bike for protection though - I'm pretty sure any semi-decent bike glove should have been treated and the like to give better abrasion protection, which a welding glove won't have.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually read in one of the bike mags that welding gloves are better than 19 of the 20 tested only ones that came out above where £200 (summer gloves). Only problem is they only come in a size 12.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the warped one wrote:
i think that welding gauntlets would be better than bike glove in a crash as they are designed to withstand multiple blows from a grinder but as said they are not attached to you in anyway and clarify for the safety nazi's i do not recomend using them everyday or in any way that they are better than bike gloves i am merely compairing


Shocked Shocked Shocked

I can't remember reading on my welding glove spec sheet that they were designed to withstand multiple blows from a grinder.

They are designed to withstand effect of UV radiation, thermal conduction and a 'certain' amount of abrasion.

They Shocked are notoriously shite at transmitting feeling (Due to heat and ray protection)

And are for welding/cutting.

Butttt if Shocked you insist and think they look cool then batter on. You won't be allowed into our bike gang wearing then though.
We use proper bike gloves or none.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiDE mag did a test with some welding gloves as the 'control' glove. The welding glove came out top for abrasion, and they said with a bit of modification to add cuff straps they would have won the test outright.

So Razz to all those who said not to. Add some kind of wrist restraints on them, and they are probably better than any bike gloves short of spending £200...
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately the let water through like a sieve.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
RiDE mag did a test with some welding gloves as the 'control' glove. The welding glove came out top for abrasion, and they said with a bit of modification to add cuff straps they would have won the test outright.

So Razz to all those who said not to. Add some kind of wrist restraints on them, and they are probably better than any bike gloves short of spending £200...

What welding gloves were these?

Not sure my £3.99 welding gloves would handle 100mph abrasion that great really.

As mentioned above, they would also lose you a load of feel too.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

We use proper bike gloves or none.


Er anything is better than nothing.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Not sure my £3.99 welding gloves would handle 100mph abrasion that great really.


They did mention a price. I can't remember what it was, but it was less than £20. iirc it was £9.99.

And I'm not saying they will handle 100mph abrasion, I'm saying they lasted longer on an abrasion test machine than 90% of the gloves that RiDE tested.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i suspect that they may be fine for abrasion, but doubt they have any protection against impact
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i suspect that they may be fine for abrasion, but doubt they have any protection against impact


Despite the welding gloves not having any armour, the bike gloves tested didn't have CE armour. It turned out the welding gloves beat many of the other bike gloves on test in impact too.

They weren't near the the top on impact, but it was done to make a point, and that point is... that most bike gloves are shit.

Remember, bike gloves aren't approved in any way for protection and are classed as fashion wear. The welding gloves had to be CE approved, and so were certified for protection. I have never seen any bike gloves with CE approval, armour or otherwise. That said, the welding gloves are approved for welding, not crash protection.

This is the scary truth behind motorcycle protection. I'm certainly against compulsory CE approval for leathers and gloves, but it doesn't mean that manufacturers can't submit their stuff for CE approval, and it doesn't mean that they can't make gear that is protective or at least as protective as CE approved gear.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 20 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think there was something similar that tested a cheese sandwich versus padding found in some jackets

the cheese sandwich gave better protection in some cases Smile
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
the cheese sandwich gave better protection in some cases Smile


Ah but it wasn't a CE approved cheese sandwich! Wink
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

Ah but it wasn't a CE approved cheese sandwich! Wink


It was by the time they did the tests. A well known protective clothing manufacturer subjected a cheese sandwich to the CE body armour qualifying impact tests and it passed. *

It wasn't just any cheese sandwich though.... It was a Marks and Spencer cheese sandwich (no, really! It was Laughing ).

Most of my bike club used to ride in welding gloves back in the 1980's, they are very effective as bike gloves go and fit right up over your jacket preventing the wind going up your sleeves.

They have almost no waterproof properties whatsoever and the dye turns your hands red on a semi-permanant basis if they get soaked.

* On a similar note. In the 1970's when the Australian government were researching the best materials to make bicycle helmets out of (they are compulsory down under). They got the best results on penetration and impact resistance from two tupperware bowls, one inside the other.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Walloper wrote:

We use proper bike gloves or none.


Er anything is better than nothing.... Crying or Very sad


Have all you cnuts lost any remains of any sense of humour yous may have at one time had? Laughing

It was a joke....

A bit hi-brow sorry. Embarassed

I think the best cheese to strap to your hands would be that Red Wenslydale. Not too sharp, and it toasts delightfully under a moderate to high grill setting. I would never consider tomato or and kind of HP sauce though. Maybe a sprinkle of fresh ground pepper.

Welding gloves would make you look like a TIT when riding a bike.
Unless you look like a TIT without wearing them of course. Cool
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Re: done test at work Reply with quote

But what your welding gloves dont have, is

1. A means of securing them around the wrist, to stop the hand coming out of the glove.

2. The pinky finger is not attached to its neighbor by a thin strip of leather, like on many race spec gloves, so leaves the pinky finger at greater risk of being broken in an off (very common injury, apparently)

3. Any style whatsoever Razz
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