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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: questions about the full bike test (direct access) Reply with quote

hi,
going to go full for my bike test in june as i think now at 22 for me its a bit pathetic to the be on Loser plates. so iv just go a few questions to ask about it.

firstly i have been riding since i was 16, had a moped untill i was 17 then had a 125 scooter for 3yrs untill i was 20 i have been riding my cagiva supercity 125(33BHP) since then and im now 22 so im wanting to go for the full test/direct access as riding on loser plates is embarrasing.
firstly:
Arrow what test do i go for as im over 21 and what will a pass mean? restricted or not?
Arrow how many days do you guys think for training? bearing in mind i have been on the road since i was 16 and extremely confident in my riding allways life saver as i dont have mirrors on my bike, know what position to be in on the road and very observent.
Arrow what sort of estimate in price am i looking at for the training and test?
Arrow how long is the full bike test?
Arrow do i do it on my own bike or will i need to hire the companys "bigger bikes" (over 46BHP i think)?
Arrow also whats it like? anything like a CBT? iv done a few of them before LOL.

any help and info will be great!!
thank you all who reply!
oh and i know i need a valid CBT to take the test
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will need to do a Theory test as well, £32.50 i think


I did my full test with 3 days training and the test on the 4th, i was only riding for a few months before hand though.
You may have picked up some bad habits though. Smile


As you are over 21 you will be able to do the DAS, which will need to be done on one of their bikes so it meets the minimum power output of the test.
Most places use 500cc commuters, some use 600s. I did mine on a GS500


I paid £375 for my training and test.


It is like a test. Smile
It is a 30 minute test.
Before the test you get asked a couple of safety questions and maintenence questions. Easy enough the instructor will give u a sheet of paper with all the possible questions and answers on it

During the test you need to demonstrate you can come to a complete stop safely from 25 / 30mph (emergency stop)

You also need to demonstrate slow riding competence. This is usually a u-turn, but can also be done by him / her walking next to you, and you having to ride at walking pace without putting your foot down. If you do it is likely to be a fail. (hardest part of the test IMO)

After that it is just a leisurely ride, done on 30mph roads, 40mph roads and if possible a 60mph road
During which you need to get all your lifesavers, mirror checks, road positioning and clearance to parked cars correct.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Might aswell do DAS, entitled to ride anything.
Arrow 3 days to iron out bad habbits.
Arrow bout £600.
Arrow bout 30-40 mins.
Arrow Use the riding schools bike.
Arrow Not really like a cbt.


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deanoet
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Re: questions about the full bike test Reply with quote

To add

befdelta7 wrote:
[...]untill i was 20 i have been riding my cagiva supercity 125(33BHP)[...]


if you havent passed your A2 test you are only allowed to ride a bike with 14.9 BHP max output and no bigger than a 125cc engine

The A2 allows you to ride any bike restricted to 33BHP for 2 years, after which it becomes an unrestricted license

The DAS allows you to ride any powered bike from the day you pass
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey.

Arrow You can do either of the tests, full or restricted.

Arrow If you've been riding for as long as you have, take a day lesson and see how you go. Book the test yourself online, its much quicker that way.

Arrow Cash? My half day lesson was £45 and the test was £60. I had my own bike.

Arrow Full bike test from start to finish for me was 50 minutes. 30 mins was riding (which I'm told was quite high) the rest was paperwork and questions. (Beware the pillion questions at the end, I babbled cause I hadn't thought of that. Embarassed )

Arrow I did the restricted test on my own bike, (saves money on the lesson and hiring a bike for the test) but means your restricted to 33bhp for two years. You might not like that but its much cheaper.

Arrow I did the CBT twice which is more of an assessment. I didn 't get the impression that you could really fail it. I failed my driving test 'on a number of occasions' Wink down to nerves (I was younger then.) The examiner was really good, put me at ease and let me get on with it. I passed with 6 minors.

Not sure you can do the restricted test on your 33bhp, technically you shouldn't be using it on a cbt anyway as its above the 15 bhp limit. Someone else can confirm that...

The big bike test (DAS) you need to do on a 500 so it'd need to be hired or borrowed.

If I missed anything, I dare say the regulars will chip in. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 22:42 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
Arrow I did the restricted test on my own bike, (saves money on the lesson and hiring a bike for the test) but means your restricted to 33bhp for two years. You might not like that but its much cheaper.


You will need to use theirs, the bike needs to put out so much BHP, not sure on the figure but it is over 40.

The test for the restricted and the full license is the same, it is just the bike that is more powerful on the unrestricted license.



You can do a restricted one, but most bikes you buy will need to be restricted, which will probably cost more than the extra to get the full license anyway

Restricted / unrestricted wont effect insurance
a 4k bike is worth 4k if it is pumping out 33BHP, or 100BHP
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 21 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

deanoet wrote:
pa_broon74 wrote:
Arrow I did the restricted test on my own bike, (saves money on the lesson and hiring a bike for the test) but means your restricted to 33bhp for two years. You might not like that but its much cheaper.


You will need to use theirs, the bike needs to put out so much BHP, not sure on the figure but it is over 40.

The test for the restricted and the full license is the same, it is just the bike that is more powerful on the unrestricted license.



You can do a restricted one, but most bikes you buy will need to be restricted, which will probably cost more than the extra to get the full license anyway

Restricted / unrestricted wont effect insurance
a 4k bike is worth 4k if it is pumping out 33BHP, or 100BHP


Indeed.

I think its 49bhp for the full license.
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PostPosted: 03:19 - 22 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

get your ass down to advantage in wimbledon and ask them to take you on an assessment ride, worked for me Thumbs Up

and how ya been mate? long time no speak!
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PostPosted: 04:07 - 22 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am similar to you befdelta, I am 22 and still on the L plates after 3 years. Had to retake CBT! Lol.

Might have to give Advantage in Wimbledon a call soon myself, seeing as I have now got the money for it.

Out of interest Saj, how much did you pay for yours? Thumbs Up
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befdelta7
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 22 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
get your ass down to advantage in wimbledon and ask them to take you on an assessment ride, worked for me

and how ya been mate? long time no speak!

yea im fine mate! how you doing?
i havent been on here for a long time, been working working working. you'll have to PM me your mobile no. i dont have it anymore, work gave me a fone 4months ago so dont use the other mobile.

advantage aounds good as it 10mins away from me, cant go for an assessment ride just yet as my insurance expired a few days ago along with the CBT, so waiting for the weather to get better before i re-insure and get the CBT done.

TYPE_MO: how much was your test and what was it like?
also do you pay for an assessment ride?
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PostPosted: 05:22 - 24 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

assessment was free.

i paid around £400 for a 3 day course, cbt was expiring soon so thought id do it, and had done the theory a lil while before.
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