Mind made up.

[at123]

Hey everyone you may have remembered my previous post about getting a SV650 but now after long winded conversations, waking up about the total cost etc i have finally decided it will have to wait until the summer

But on the side i can afford a 125 and i have my CBT currently although my local test centre have said i can come down and do a cbt day to get used to gears but its cheaper as they dont have to issue me with the certificate

I am looking for a 4 stroke, i dont want to start a 2 stroke vs 4 stroke war on this thread please but i have narrowed it down to 3

The YBR 125, CG 125 or CBR125

Budget of £1500 already have all the gear apart from boots but will grab some sidis nearer the time.

Now please can i have some opions on the 3 at the minute i am being pulled towards the ybr but need some owners advice on the 3 or general advice from people

Thanks

[Barker-CBR 600]

CG is great hack and pretty fun in a way. Shouldnt be too difficult to maintain and keep running solidly for a long time. Probably deal with a bit of abuse you might end up giving it over winter as well. Cheap as chips in most departments.

CBR is the tarty version really, more to keep clean and more to break. Nicer = pricey although might well be worth it. Personal opinion on looks size and style the big thing for that.

YBR no idea never been on one or know anyone with one.
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[Ben.]

all just as reliable than the tohers, cbr looks nicer, is quicker, better handiling.
note its not a quick bike, its just quicker than the other 2, which will only do 50mph and are in top gear half way through the revs at 35mph... they are slow on another level.
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[Ben.]

cbr's cost more as well, and if you drop it, then it will cost more, but if your that cheap you dont need the lower fairings on it....
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[Charlie]

Get a CLR125 (Honda City Fly) was my first bike and it was a good one
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[at123]

Thanks for the fast responses,

i mean i like the cg for being cheap but the spokes really put me off, so second to that you have the ybr i mean 60 max probably but i dont use any nsl roads its all town with a max speed of about 40/45 which my current 50 moped (probably one of a few restricted ones ) handles ok but cars still ever annoying presense up the side of me.

cbr expensive and for the few months i have it is it worth it i ask myself i mean i can pick up a ybr for about £1200 with my trade in and try and con a top box off them which should hold its value in the summer when i trade it in for the sv, any thoughts?

[at123]

[neatbik]

matt06 on here had a ybr, try pm'ing him for any info if he doesent reply here.
virus currently has a cg (or at least it was, i think )

[truslack]

[Dalemac]

my ybr with its 1up front sprocket will do an easy 65mph. 73 if you push it hard enough for long enough!

oh, and its up for sale too, right in your price range.

Will PM you.
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[Ben.]

[Tristan.]

[Ben.]

[Dalemac]

completely agree there tristian.

overhead cam in the ybr offers slightly better acceleration over the cg too, only ever so slightly tho.

Dale
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[Dalemac]

Half lyfe, you will be wanting to make a video of how the crap the cbr125 is too after you have had a good few experiences on the sv650.


ghostrider would probably moan at anything less than a 500bhp hayabusa too.


its called progression. Dont forget the YBR is a small commuter, designed to get you from a to b. The CBR is effectively designed to be a small sports bike.

Yamaha's answer to the cbr125 is the yzfr-125, which will be very difficult competition for the cbr. Suzuki are also releasing the gsxr-125 which will be similar to the yzfr125. Ultimately i can see the CBR being the bottom of the pack and people winging about them.

The ybr is not being discontinued, because it is a completely different bike aimed at a completely different target market. I think your forgetting that
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[G]

At that price range, I would say CBR - if you're spending that much you might as well get a smidgen of performance and a bit less depreciation.

However for that money you could get better 125s. Or you could do your test and get a cheaper bike.

[Tango675]

I agree with "G".

If you are looking to keep the bike a couple of months until you trade up, the CBR125 will be the quickest bike to sell on and loose you the least money. The CG125, becuase of its popularity will also be good to sell on. The YBR125 is not a bad bike, it may just be a bit harder to sell on when you want something faster.

Unfortunatly the CG and YBR both suffer from "Its a Bike School Bike" style wise. and 17yo always want a bi of style.
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[Ben.]

mmy point was if you want a reliable quick 4 stroke buy the cbr, its a lot quicker than ybr for a 125cc 4 stroke. I know the cbr is dull and drab and given the choice again i would have picked a 2 stroke, but i went for the safe dull option of the cbr.
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[at123]

well i think i will go for the cbr then depending on if the dealer has one available, thanks ever so much people.

Ive read the tyres are thin on them half-lyfe did you have any problems with the stock tyres?

[Tristan.]

Having read G's post I should probably add that I would never spend that much on a learner bike (or buy a new one from a dealer) since that's the route your taking that makes my opinion less usefull.

[Ben.]

[at123]

Just seen this

https://www.kymco.co.uk/motorcycles/krsport.html

Anyone know about these sort of bikes, i currently have an agility 50 it hasnt let me down still starts just looses power every so often but i think thats just because of the weather

i am comparing this to the CBR 125 and this just seems to look bigger

Any reviews?

Cheers people

[G]

Weight is higher for a start - higher than most 2 stroke 125s.
In most bike things, weight and large size are seen as bad things.
Bizarrely, lots of 125cc 4 stroke riders seem to think the exact opposite <shrugs>, I've never been in with this 'style' thing .

Top speed is listed a fair bit lower than the CBR, despite not costing much less.

[at123]

i didnt mean it as a style thing but there is just so many out there to choose but looking at the honda: 4 stroke, liquid cooled, honda, so should be good and reliable and plus most of my time is spent waiting for traffic lights so at least it will stay nice and cool like i say cant wait till the summer when i can get my 650 but having the gears for 3-4 months is a plus

Lets end this then CBR it is

Thanks for all the advice much appricated will post some pics when i get it

[Damon]

Get a 2 stroke

For that sort of money you can get a decent 05 RS etc. Will out preform any of the 125 4 strokes by far.

But if you are too sensible for that, I suppose a CBR wouldnt be too bad either. Buy second hand by the way. Do not look for anything new.