Police March

[Walloper]

Why was I not made aware of this? Yoo fukirz.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/23/view23b.xml
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[Itchy]

I knew about it.

Its cus the BBC now a New Labour puppet has been ordered to try and play it down as much as possible, (note I've not seen it on the front page of the BBC website).

and Zanulabour still thinks people trust the BBC.

Ironically a nulabour law outlaws such demos,
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[Mister James]

Much like the 40,000 POA Prison Officers who went on strike last year - who is going to arrest and imprison 25,000 coppers?

I think for most police the money involved is secondary to the fact that - like with the Prison Service - the government has been dishonest and broken a legally binding arrangement.

Mind-bogglingly, the government expects (while somehow keeping a straight face!) the other side of these agreements to keep to the original bargain - and screams blue murder when they suggest they might not!
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[Itchy]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7409679.stm

seems today is the day if they decide to strike or not, we should do our best NOT to support them.
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[Timmeh]

right, who's up for doing the north/south circular race?

First one to 125mph wins a teddy bear.

Moreover, do you think I'd get arrested for carrying a placard saying, 'You're all cunts" ??
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[ColdInsomnia]

Anything which keeps the police force and the government from 'getting along too nicely' is a good thing in my book.

Supporting the coppers here, we'll want them on our side when it's time to oust these cretins.
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[Mister James]

There is that - and regardless of your feelings on coppers, the general principle is worth fighting for;

HMG undertook to follow the directions of the pay award panel, and in return the police gave up their right to strike.

HMG has decided that it no longer feels bound by the agreement, but it expects the police to hold up their end of the bargain!

This is something we see in a more metaphorical sense every day, but now that they have actually publicly scorned such an agreement, I think it's right that it is publicly highlighted, and publicly challenged.
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[Itchy]

[Keir]

a police strike would be interesting wouldnt it. Should shit the government up good and proper.
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[Shay HTFC]

Could you imagine a Police strike?
The army would have to be patrolling the town centres and some suburbs would just become war zones.

Wow - Potentially some very interesting scenarios ahead!

Correction: The army would patrol Westminster while everywhere else would be left in anarchy for 1 day.
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[Kris]

I'm with the police and prison service on this issue. Now if only the police would realise everyone is getting shafted by these scumbags maybe we'd be getting somewhere. One can only hope, eh.
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[Mister James]

[Itchy]

[Mister James]

Breaking pledges to the electorate in an election is one (unprincipled) thing - breaking a legally binding agreement is another.
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[Moonie]

We should call in some miners and hippies to beat the living sh*t out of them.
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[Itchy]

[Mister James]

[Shay HTFC]

Speaking as someone from a long line of Labour support and working class background, I'm all for any strikes if only to act as nails in the coffin of NuLab.

The Police have some backbone and are basically telling the government to f**k off if they are considering pissing about with their wages after a pre agreed contract.

If only we could all be more like that and strike when petrol taxes go up, when the 10p allowance gets scrapped etc.
It's nice to know that some organisations and groups of people still have their backbone.
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[Visitor Q]

Well, when the whining part time fire brigade fucked off we got the squaddies in the green princesses or whatever they're called.

So I reckon 'traffic' squaddies in challenger II's could be lively
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[Mister James]

[Kickstart]

Hi

I would doubt the police would dare strike. Win or loose their job afterwards would be pretty much impossible, and they would have lost every last scrap of public confidence.

I would suspect they would withdraw their non contractual obligations. No overtime for speed cameras ( ), refusing to carry firearms (which would probably panic the government into closing the airports), refusing to fill in paperwork not related directly to the criminal conviction process (so no checks for taxi driver licence applications, etc), etc.

All the best

Keith
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[Mister James]

Agreed. Working to rule is quite enough to upset the apple cart when considering the Police or HMP - both organisations' everyday running relies on huge amounts of overtime and staff forbearance.
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[pa_broon74]

This question was asked on Question Time lastnight, I think its so much saber rattling, they know striking isn't an option.

What annoys me about this (for I have no firm views on the pay rise or lack there-of) is the government are tring to justify it by saying if the police got their full payrise it would lead to possible hyper-inflation. The sum involved is only £40 odd million, so its another blatant lie especially since they can afford to dole out 2.7 billion on a tax cut, (not to mention their own inflated payrises...)

Itchy mentioned up yonder if you don't like it get another job, I don't think this really applies. Giving examples of leaving a telesales company or meat packers (you must tell us who it was so we can avoid it) isn't really pertinent as they're not really vocational occupations.

Otherwise I would agree, I've chucked in jobs in the past, but it didn't adversely affect my career (such as it is.) If it had, I probably would have had to think again.


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[Shay HTFC]

Aye, pa_broon, I watched it too and had to laugh when they cited inflationary worries as a reason for not giving out the pay rise.

Police officers make up a small proportion of the total population and having a few hundred extra quid each is going to do nothing noticeable to the economy. It was just a way of trying to convince us of a credible reason to not backdate pay.

It's actually just taking the piss. ~£40m is nothing on a national economic scale really. This government is basically struggling now and trying to cut every last penny due to the way we've fucked up and are now a totally credit reliant economy.

It would be interesting to see what the tories do when (I should say 'if', but really?) they get in power to change it around? They'll definitely cut a lot of the benefits payments. My only worry is if we go back to having no safety net for those who genuinely need benefits and seeing the working class get fleeced again.
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