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PostPosted: 10:50 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: DAMMIT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW!!!! Reply with quote

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7242095.stm
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the few industries where the Polish probably aren't cheaper to employ.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just find it quite funny how they worded the first paragraph though,

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crisis in the curry industry.


holy crap we may end up with no curry left in the nation at this rate Razz
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ye canny get good cous-cous either. WTF are we going to do about that? Mad
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can other people not be trained to cook curries? They just want the cheapest employment who already know the skills.
Unless they only want them because they are Bangladeshi, which surely then goes into race discrimination.

That's how it works. If the supply gets short, you pay more. i.e. the chefs get more expensive which is just how it works elsewhere (in theory)
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, i agree.

My dads been a chef in chinatown for the last 20 years, although he is headchef hes actually earning the same to what he was 10 years ago due to the restaurants sorting out work permits and importing their workforce in from mainland china because they can pay them peanuts. Problem is the food quality and the general running of the kitchens are dropping as tbh, these guys just arent upto scratch.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUCK THEM. Stay in your own country and we will live without fucking curry.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

konsoli wrote:
and we will live without fucking curry.


Speak for yourself.
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

konsoli wrote:
FUCK THEM. Stay in your own country and we will live without fucking curry.


we've always got the "Might" of patak and sharwoods.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that in parts of the UK there was an unemployment rate of 70% amongst Bangladeshis. If they are willing to pay hundreds to travel thousands of miles why not pay £10's to get them to travel hundreds of miles? Or is it the case that once migrants are settled they are eligible for benefits, so why work?
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im happy the kebab industry isn't running out of turkish people Razz haha. so i dont care Smile and if all else fails...there's always domino's pizza. *doesn't work for domino's, honest*. hehe
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shay HTFC wrote:
They just want the cheapest employment who already know the skills.
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This applies to most jobs these days. And when you look in their reception areas they proudly display "investor in people" plaques.
Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

konsoli wrote:
FUCK THEM. Stay in your own country and we will live without fucking curry.


Yeah.....

We can all eat Haggis, Neeps an' Tatties.... Laughing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

We can all eat Haggis, Neeps an' Tatties.... Laughing Thumbs Up

Shocked holy shite - if its that dire then open the fookin borders - let everyone in.
anything to NOT have to eat that shite.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm off for a curry in 10mins - there better be a chef there Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I'm off for a curry in 10mins - there better be a chef there Shocked


What sound does an Indian Restaurant kitchen make when busy?

Putt Putt Ting Ting... Putt Putt Ting Ting..

***Walloper is leaving the building *** Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I'm off for a curry in 10mins - there better be a chef there Shocked


He's probably making the "special sauce" as you're thinking about it. Sick
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

headlamp wrote:
I thought that in parts of the UK there was an unemployment rate of 70% amongst Bangladeshis. If they are willing to pay hundreds to travel thousands of miles why not pay £10's to get them to travel hundreds of miles? Or is it the case that once migrants are settled they are eligible for benefits, so why work?


Migrants can be exploited much more heavily than the locals, what happens is that a migrant is taken from China,India/Pakistan, they are given a contract for 2-3 years.

The person taking them on rents them a property which they MUST take or not get the job, ontop of this they pay fees to the introduction agency so they get paid NMW but have most of it taken away. And thus you can get people working for you for 50p a day.

The migrant is often compliant because their passport is held by the employer and the rules state that if you lose your job and are not an EU citizen you are supposed to go home.

The migrant isn't stupid though after 18 months they can apply to settle here, BUT they cannot own their own businesses due to various restrictions, so they go home get married , and bring their spouse over who can own businesses who then opens their own business quit that job and start working in their own business.


Employers are actually sealing their own fate though, since once they own their own business they are often MUCH more competitive than the old lot.

And thus drive the original owners out of business since the biz their usually own are perfect competition (no barriers to entry).
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
Joe wrote:
I'm off for a curry in 10mins - there better be a chef there Shocked


He's probably making the "special sauce" as you're thinking about it. Sick


Naaa.... Not today. He made that last week and put it at the bottom of the fridge.
He is finishing off the Easter Sunday Special today.
Sick

I dont give a fukc I like curry. I think I was a Paki in a previous life..
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shay HTFC wrote:
That's how it works. If the supply gets short, you pay more. i.e. the chefs get more expensive which is just how it works elsewhere (in theory)


Thats how classical economics works.

If nobody will do your job , you increase wages until it attracts people to do the job that you are offering, if there are 1000s of applicants you can afford to reduce wages.

The NMW has distorted this and effectively a cabal has formed where most jobs pay NMW , and thus it is a maximum and a minimum.

However avarice has taken over which means bosses want top employees and want to pay them sod all too.

At work alot of people feel incredibly threatened by outsourcing and also the polish girlie who works for NMW and is being trained to do more things, I feel threatened too even though my job can't be outsourced fully (audit manager).
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 13 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh the bliss in Peasantry.
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