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Dragonfly
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 15 Feb 2008    Post subject: Here is some cash now behave. Reply with quote
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080215/tuk-families-to-get-cash-for-behaving-dba1618_1.html
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Jobless families could get "benefits bonuses" for finding work, making their kids behave or by living healthily under radical plans.

Based on a US scheme - where New York families can claim up to £3,000 annually for three years - the payments would be handed to deprived parents for meeting a range of good citizenship targets.

This could also mean payments for ensuring children attend school and visit the dentist regularly as well as windfalls for attending parents' evenings and helping out at schools.

Gordon Brown is setting out proposals for a "contract out of poverty" in a speech to the Welsh Labour Party conference.

He is insisting there must be an "opportunity revolution" to give poor families incentives to raise their standards of living.

The speech will be seen as an admission that the Government's ambitious pledge to end child poverty by 2020 has run into trouble.

The initial target of a million reduction by 2005 was missed by some 300,000, and campaigners believe relative deprivation is rising again.

Opponents will also claim that Labour's "nanny state" is trying to meddle in people's lives by forging such detailed links between benefits and behaviour.

Mr Brown will say: "Think what we can achieve in our century if - instead of unlocking only some of the talent of some of the people - we are able for the first time to unlock all the talent of all our people, and do so not simply as an economic necessity, but as a moral imperative."

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PostPosted: 15:06 - 15 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
"He is insisting there must be an "opportunity revolution" to give poor families incentives to raise their standards of living."

Here's a novel fvcking idea...pay them a living wage and then don't thieve most of it back in criminal taxes. Fvcking arsehole.
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You make me chuckle Laughing

Up here in North Wales, one very small estate has just been given a budget of £11M (to be spent over the next five years) to allow out-of-work mothers to send their pre-school children to nursery. Apparently they (social services) want to give the mothers some time to themselves, a break from looking after the children.

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cestrian wrote:
You make me chuckle Laughing

Up here in North Wales, one very small estate has just been given a budget of £11M (to be spent over the next five years) to allow out-of-work mothers to send their pre-school children to nursery. Apparently they (social services) want to give the mothers some time to themselves, a break from looking after the children.

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I got a better idea, send the mothers to work.... Then they will have some money to spend as well...
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ok so more of my taxes go towards ppl who cant be bothered to learn/work/behave. Id just tell them get work and then theyll have money. I dont see why they get special treatment, im about to be made redundant from my job (been given a 3month temporay contract) and im already looking for jobs.

Ive never been arreseted and ive always tried my best at school/college.
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Based on a US scheme - where New York families can claim up to £3,000 annually for three years - the payments would be handed to deprived parents for meeting a range of good citizenship targets.


What happens to the families that don't conform to these 'good citizen targets'? Fuck em, leave them out in the cold and anyone who does conform will be left completely reliant on the benefits. No better off than they were before as the government tightens its grip on their balls.

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Mr Brown will say: "Think what we can achieve in our century if - instead of unlocking only some of the talent of some of the people - we are able for the first time to unlock all the talent of all our people, and do so not simply as an economic necessity, but as a moral imperative."


What the hell is this meant to mean? It's a load of bollocks.
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cestrian
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But what about their human rights?
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matthab wrote:
ok so more of my taxes go towards ppl who cant be bothered to learn/work/behave. Id just tell them get work and then theyll have money. I dont see why they get special treatment, im about to be made redundant from my job (been given a 3month temporay contract) and im already looking for jobs.


true the thing is though alot of people like that often have children, and children are the innocent party in this, ie its all good and well to limit benefits to people who do not work but it isn't exactly ethical to starve their children is it?.

Though there are some schools of thought which say that seeing their children starve may well be the encouragement that it needed for people to go get jobs.
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We don't have an education system that serves to enlighten and educate people, we have a system designed to force round pegs into square holes and square pegs into round holes. Cue massive resentment from un-qualified prols who don't appreciate being forced to work in slave-holes like McDonalds for minimum wage.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 18 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
cestrian wrote:
You make me chuckle Laughing

Up here in North Wales, one very small estate has just been given a budget of £11M (to be spent over the next five years) to allow out-of-work mothers to send their pre-school children to nursery.
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I could see that being a good idea if the condition was that you went out and got work.
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