Xenon headlight bulbs and running diesel on veggie oil?

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Didn't see point of 2 posts so will ask my questions in here...

1) Bosch wiper blades... are they really that good? ones on my van suck so bad I need to change them but don't want cheapie ones, the bosh seem to have a good rep?

Like N-BOSCH-WIPER-BLADES-26-20_W0QQitemZ270214358640QQihZ017QQcategoryZ45645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="external_link_1" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">these

2) Headlight bulbs.. are any of them actually worth the packaging they come in? or are they all shit waste of money? I'm not expecting HiD results, just would like a brighter more efficient light to make night time country lane driving a bit easier...

Like these

3) anyone run their diesel on veggie oil? (ste) what's the deal with this..... is it worth doing or not... I have a 2001 fiat scudo 2ltr JTD if that makes any difference. (saw it on mythbusters so made me consider it Laughing

) but I'm not sure I can be arsed to go around restaurants stealin their used veggie oil Laughing

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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

The lamps seem too good to be troo.

The lamps I use are £25 a pop. PIAA But they work as good as HID (Nearly Embarassed

) They also come with a warranty.
I had two of them in my bike. Brill for cuntry roads..

Or for etching the retinas of tits who jump out on top of you... Evil or Very Mad

Bosch Stuff is all good. Thumbs Up

Even their Pork Sausages on the BBQ can't be beaten.

Running on Veg oil is quite simple. But I suspect that the source of oil will dri up if even 1/2 doz folk convert. How much oil is thrown out on a weekly basis and how ecconomical would it be to buy from a supermarket when McDonalds have none? Sad

I think your car would smell like a chip van too.

edit after raking t' Internet. After cost of conversion equipment it looks as though it willl be cheaper and is is carbon nuetral.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=520558

"Ever thought of using vegetable oil in your diesel car ? last month revenues and excise have given everybody a personal limit of 2500 litres of bio diesel duty free per annum. So if you have 5 people in your house you can safely use 12500 litres of vege oil per annum and as it is 54p at most supermarkets and if you buy in bulk direct from the manufactureres this turns down to approx 42p per litre. against 99p per liter of diesel and 97p per liter of petrol.
this would save you a bomb. Also some vehicles do not need conversion either before they can accept vegetable oil either."
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phil2alp · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Karma :

Veggie oil.

My mate who works in a Peugeot dealership as a mechanic says they've now had a few people come into the garage who've tried to run their cars on veg oil.

They run fine on veg oil but after about 18 months or less it wrecks the diesel pump and injectors needing expensive repairs/replacements, especially if it's a high pressure system. He says for what you save in fuel it's not worth it.

He reckons they're expecting more and more problems/warranty claims with cars run on bio fuel as it becomes more popular. He says if the bio fuel isn't mixed correctly with the additives it can cause a lot of problems with blocked diesel filter, pump and injectors.

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Buying at 42p per litre sounds very very tempting! Does new oil still need to be filtered? On mythbusters program it said the vehicles don't need ANY modifications at all? Can it be mixed with diesel or do I have to run it solely on veggie oil??

What lamps are the ones you run? I don't mind spending a bit extra , I want something decent not something shit and I know £5 for the lamps on ebay is a bit cheap too good to be true!
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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

https://www.piaa.co.uk/bulbs/bulbshow.asp?ID=powersport

They are a wee bit sore on the pocket but you will like the power. They are the only std fit bulbs I have ever used what did as it said on the box.
I have used Phillips speshal-soopur-doopur bulbs and noticed ZERO effect.

The PIAA web site will give you detail of dealer and mail order etc.
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iCraig · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Karma :

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Cheers for the good replies, I'll go with the Bosch wipers...

and is this the ones you're on about?

this

I can't justify £70 on headlight bulbs unfortunately walloper Sad

so think I'll be best of trying the philips ones?
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Veggy oil, the short answer is yes.

But, you need to do lots of reading up on how the particular car and engine get on being run on SVO (straight vegetable oil, bottles of what you can buy off the shelf in Lidl etc, the cheaper the better). Find some owners club forum or enthusiasts forum, looking to see for people saying stuff like "I've been running on it for 35k with no problems" or of course for people who've encountered problems with it. Its the injectors and the fuel pump which might have problems with SVO and if it goes wrong then you'll be left with a big bill.

For running on waste vegetable oil (WVO) you'd need to get a filtration system built (or bought) but that's not something I've ried or looking into further than to establish it isn't straight forward. Much cheaper than buying cooking oil if you can find somewhere that's happy to give you their waste oil.

Couple of useful forums for SVO stuff here and here.

You can get various fuel heater systems and duel tank systems that allow you to have the main tank filled with SVO and a smaller tank filled with diesel to use on the first few and last few miles of any journey. Veggy oil goes jelly like when at cold temperatures so if you're running a high ratio of it at the moment, try to start it in the morning and it won't because the injectors are filled with solidified jelly like veggy oil. In summer when it isn't so cold you'll be able to run much higher ratios than at the moment.

Is it worth doing, yes. Much cheaper to buy, I get the same MPG on SVO as I do on normal pump diesel. And there's the added bonus of the amusement of it as you get to the checkout, put one of them on the belt then say "I've got 80 of these" and the checkout girl wants to count them, totals 70 so counts them again this time coming to 80. Laughing

Then there's people asking in disbelief in the carpark as you proceed to fill your tank with your trolley load of 1 litre veggy oil bottles. Often there seems to be someone who reliably informs you about how running a vehicle on veggy oil doesn't work... O RLY, that's strange cos I've been doing just that for the past few thousand miles". Then you've got to find a couple of bins around the carpark to fill with empty bottles. Smile

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Madmanx · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Karma :

I ran a transit on bio-deisel and within 3 months my injectors started to crack and crumble.
When the pump and tank were flushed there was a huge amount of sludge come out.
It was the conclusion of my mechanic that I should only use 50% per full tank if using it or better still none at all.
For the sake of saving a few pence on fuel it didn't balance out on repairs.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Craig- Thanks for that link. However I don't want to blind other road users, so could you tell me if you ever get any negative "flashes" from other road users due to brightness? If so I don't really want to do it as I find it frustrating when people have poorly aligned lights or lights that just are too bright.

Also do you recommend getting full beam ones as well? For my car there doesn't seem to be a PowerXtream version for full beam, but there is for dipped, but they are £30, which isn't bad.
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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

Craig- Nah I was looking at H7's, there isn't any PowerXtreams in H4.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Dom_ · Points Mean Prizes Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Karma :

No regular bulb will match proper HID headlights for pure brightness.

The ones that are like £25 i don't think are worth the extra money, especially when you can get a decent HID kit for £80.

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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Ebay.

Seems I got the wrong info... Embarassed

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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

But are they really that simple to fit?

I don't like the idea that people are buying these kits and not getting their lights adjusted by a professional after installation, it's quite dangerous.
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Cigaro · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Karma :

Some diesels take to running veggie oil quite happily, others struggle especially when starting from cold, and with some it will cause internal damage to the injection system.

As a general rule vehicles with a Bosch injection pump will be fine.

It doesn't work so well on modern common-rail engines.

I ran a Cavalier (Isusu 1.7TD engine, Bosch pump) on SVO for thousands of miles with no problems.

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