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Walloper
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: The Demon Drink ***RANT WARNING*** Reply with quote

Because a lot of ar*eholes cannot control themselves after drinking we will all soon be blootered again by higher tax on our tipples.

It is *ucking s*ite.

Anyone who causes damage or injury whilst drunk should be thrown in jail for a long time or receive a real and meaningful kicking.

We have pubs in Glasgow who control drink violence by selling drink in plastic tumblers... Shocked

It is against the law to sell a person who is drunk alcohol.
That law has been around for fu*king years.
Use the laws and we will not have drink violence.

Take the Off Licence off the Pakis (who for a lot of them, it is against their religion to consume alcohol)

The problem is the c*nts selling the alcohol are only interested in profit not control of alcohol.

When the alcohol industry goes tits up it is them I will blame not the donkeys who drink it.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: The Demon Drink ***RANT WARNING*** Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
We have pubs in Glasgow who control drink violence by selling drink in plastic tumblers... Shocked


That's the done thing in Kings Lynn too, infact, one of the bars here will ask you to leave if you question the need for your drink to be served in a plastic tumbler....Trust me, I know!

I was out for my birthday last weekend and unfortunately one of our group is one of the idiots that can't hold their drink. Subsequently we were asked to leave a pub, have a valeting ticket from a taxi firm and very nearly ended up in A&E.

I've always wondered why I don't go out and get slaughtered and now I know.
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Kris
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: The Demon Drink ***RANT WARNING*** Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Because a lot of ar*eholes cannot control themselves after drinking we will all soon be blootered again by higher tax on our tipples.


Violent or stupid drunks have been around since the birth of alcohol. This is no new phoenomenon.

If the taxes are raised 'again' and they feed you bullshit about how it's because of the drunks - then it's your fault for being so gullible. Rolling Eyes

Taxing the drunks will not stop drunks. It will probably just hinder everyone else.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you drunk when you typed that Wally? I reckon you should go into politics mate, you're very good at taking a stance on an issue, making some bold, but ultimately ill-considered statements, and then with no thought at all as to how to implement these, repeat them, ignoring any evidence that my come to light which contradicts them.

For example, your comments on the "it is illegal to serve alcohol to someone who is intoxicated" law; it's all very well just standing on your, decidedly flimsy, pedestal and stating that we should "enforce it," but really it's not as simple as that.

Generally it comes down to the discretion of the person selling the alcohol. If they, as you suggest 'enforce the law' then anyone showing any signs that they are even slightly under the influence of alcohol should cease to be served. Obviously, that's ridiculous. So a judgement has to be made, as to whether this person is too drunk or not. Obviously, this is subjective, and there are a number of other factors.

For ecample, alcohol does not take effect immediately, and so it is possible to serve someone who has had far too much to drink, but appears to be relatively in control at the time.

I do agree that people who can't handle their drink and go around causing problems are arseholes, but for my money the best way around this would be, for reasons I have explained elsewhere on this forum, to lower the legal drinking age significantly, or even to abolish it completely, replacing it instead with common sense. I'm sure it still exists, although to any Health and Safety executive, Common Sense is a myth, and certainly something which can never be relied upon.

Whatever happened to natural selection...
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drinking is not a new problem, I think we all know that.

The issue lies with the fact that (as in many other activities) there are too many arseholes ruining it for everyone else.

Just like you get the tossers cutting you up at roundabouts and overtaking standing traffic etc etc you get the idiots who cant have a few drinks without their emotions going wild and kicking off. You get the ones who are too immature to have a night out without drinking 20 shots to look hard and end up in casualty.

I could be described as a 'binge drinker' on friday or saturday nights. I like to go out and get drunk basically whilst having a laugh. Ive been doing this for about 8 or 9 years now quite religeously.

Number of times arrested: 0
Number of times hospitalised: 0
Number of fights: 0
Number of offers of fights from pissed up morons: plenty
damage to public property: 0

But theres people who cant seem to sniff half a shandy and theyre off smashing a shop window. Bizarre. Some loon accused me of trying to steal his taxi on friday for having the audacity of walking past a taxi queue, even though I live about 3 hundred yards down the road and was walking home.

Anyway Im rambling. My main point is that I like a drink. I drink at home through the week, not excessively but maybe a few bottles a night. The new government claims are that its too 'cheap' for people to get drunk, yet last night it cost me 12 quid for a bottle of rose for the missus and eight bottles of peroni I wouldnt have got excessively drunk on that lot even if Id poured it into me effin eyeballs. Why should I pay any more for that??

Your white lightening etc will be targetted too I reckon, but the government are prob using this as a front to make more cash so everything will be blanketted.

Again its the all too familiar story of the arseholes wrecking it for everyone else, something we see time and time again.
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Kris
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
the government are prob using this as a front to make more cash so everything will be blanketted.

Again its the all too familiar story of the arseholes wrecking it for everyone else


The government knows taxing alcohol more won't stop the idiots.

There will always be a minority of people in every activity / hobby / etc. that cannot control themselves. Just like in bikes we have a few idiots. Does that mean bikes should be more heavily taxed?

Don't let the government fool you into thinking extra tax helps us. It doesn't whether that's emissions taxes, booze taxes, whatever.

My god, how naieve have we become? Confused
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:
Were you drunk when you typed that Wally? I reckon you should go into politics mate, you're very good at taking a stance on an issue, making some bold, but ultimately ill-considered statements, and then with no thought at all as to how to implement these, repeat them, ignoring any evidence that my come to light which contradicts them.

For example, your comments on the "it is illegal to serve alcohol to someone who is intoxicated" law; it's all very well just standing on your, decidedly flimsy, pedestal and stating that we should "enforce it," but really it's not as simple as that.

Generally it comes down to the discretion of the person selling the alcohol. If they, as you suggest 'enforce the law' then anyone showing any signs that they are even slightly under the influence of alcohol should cease to be served. Obviously, that's ridiculous. So a judgement has to be made, as to whether this person is too drunk or not. Obviously, this is subjective, and there are a number of other factors.

For ecample, alcohol does not take effect immediately, and so it is possible to serve someone who has had far too much to drink, but appears to be relatively in control at the time.

I do agree that people who can't handle their drink and go around causing problems are arseholes, but for my money the best way around this would be, for reasons I have explained elsewhere on this forum, to lower the legal drinking age significantly, or even to abolish it completely, replacing it instead with common sense. I'm sure it still exists, although to any Health and Safety executive, Common Sense is a myth, and certainly something which can never be relied upon.

Whatever happened to natural selection...



My learned friend Mr. Dave McCool, may I be permitted the pleasure of drawing your wandered attention to the following information?

wiki "A rant or harangue is a speech or text that does not present a well-researched and calm argument; rather, it is typically an attack on an idea, a person or an institution, and very often lacks proven claims. Such attacks are usually personal attacks. Compare with a dialectic.

In some cases, rants are based on facts and concrete information, but the key ideas expressed are what the individual personally feels.

However, some rants are used not to attack something, but to defend an individual, idea or organization. Rants of this type generally occur after the subject has been attacked by another individual or group."


Note for the future.
Please, before making a howling cunt of yourself before the house, RTFT (READ THE FUCKING THREAD heading)!

I do have a clear view that Laws of Natural Selection would be most efficacious in this case.
My only concern with that is that it takes too long and I will be forced to pay for 'countermeasures' that may prevent this powerful force from having permanent effect and also reduce my own lawful enjoyment of something.

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PostPosted: 13:17 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:


Number of times arrested: 0
Number of times hospitalised: 0
Number of fights: 0
Number of offers of fights from pissed up morons: plenty
damage to public property: 0



Mine is like this

Number of times arrested: A fair few
Number of times hospitalised: Once or twice
Number of fights: God knows, but far too many
Number of offers of fights: Loads from idiots
Damage to public property: A bit


The things shown in the table above are why I stopped getting bladdered, now I aint the most intelligent person on the planet so if I can work it out why cant others?

I worked out (not hard I know) that when I didn't get wankered I had a good night anyway, remembered all of it and didn't get into a fight/hospital/police cell, not to mention the money I saved. Now you don't need to be a genius to work out that drink causes it as we all know. So why cant the other fuk wits work it out?

Beyond me.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Re: The Demon Drink ***RANT WARNING*** Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
...Anyone who causes damage or injury whilst drunk should be thrown in jail for a long time...

Unlikely, not enough room. They'll be letting out the murderers and paedophiles to make space then Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Kris"]
Villers wrote:
Don't let the government fool you into thinking extra tax helps us. It doesn't whether that's emissions taxes, booze taxes, whatever


I reckon they're putting money on booze because of the smoking ban has reduced the amount people smoke. Obviously less people smoking means lower tax revenue. They have to make it back someway.
This country is a steaming pile of piss.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 27 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...
What about more tax on knee sliders, rim tape, anodised components and tank bags.....
Hit the offenders where it hurts.

I propose a new tax regime.
Anything you don't like (even for selfish reasons) you can ask Alistair Darling to hammer it. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 28 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Bill Hicks once said...

"Swap beer in clubs for spliffs and fruit juice and it would be a completely different scenario"
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