Popping the front'

[tutton]

Well riding a 50
just fort id learn how to pop some wheelies, but i cant seem to get the hang.

Cheers
Altough it does like spinning the back wheel up =/
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[5v3d3b0]

I assume the bike in the pic is your ride?
If so it shouldn't be terribly difficult cause the centre of gravity is pretty good for wheelies. (not front heavy)

1. Ride along at about 10mph, and hold the clutch in.
2. Hold the clutch in and rev the engine a couple thousand revs, and while they're at those revs (lets say 4000rpm), you drop the clutch. The front probably wont lift at all, but you'll feel a lunge forwards.
3. Keep increasing the rpms at which you dump the clutch little by little and you'll feel the lunge getting stronger each time. If you get all the way up the rev range without wheeling even a little bit, try leaning back more, cause you'll probably be leaning forwards by instinct.
Good luck

[G]

It's a 50, suspect you may have to start slower than 10mph.

Far from an ideal bike to learn on, though better than some other 50s.

Better to practice stoppies until you get a more appropriate bike to my mind.

While I usually say 'learning to wheelie is safer than riding on the road if you're sensible', on a low powered bike you generally have to get it up pretty high to keep it up at all, so there's a much steeper learning curve.

[tutton]

liking the advice, and yes tis my 50, ive been trying and the lunge is worrying me if you know what i mean lol.

and it seems that when i lean back and try, the forks just extend by like another 10 cm lmao?

maybe im not being brutal enough dropping it,
I will have another test in a bit
Cheers
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[5v3d3b0]

Just don't try to learn too fast cause I almost got messed up like that.
I had my gf on the back and we were doing small wheelies and I pinned the throttle sending us into a near 12oclock wheelie slightly sideways and slammed back down miraculously unharmed. That was the last wheelie she came with me on hehehe
That was on a tuned tzr 50. The big bore kit, crank, exhaust and carb made a huge difference in torque though

[Matt06]

If your back wheel is spinning up then maybe your tyres are too cold and/or the conditions arent good. My bike wont wheelie at all if there isnt any temperature in the tyres and just spins up. Sometimes the front comes up after the spinning, but not by much.

I would also say from my own experience that if the 'lunge' is making me jump or snapping my body forwards, then position on the bike should be altered. Maybe try leaning more forwards, pulling the front and leaning back as you apply the power. If that makes any sense at all.
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Previous: YBR125, GSXR400, ZXR400, MT-03, NTV650, R6, z750, ZX6R, MT-09

[truslack]

On the 50 you will have to get it above half revs, dump the clutch and hold on. Be crawling at about 5mph when you do it.

Don't make the mistake I did in doing it from standing, at 10,000rpm - almost flipped it .
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)

[stinkwheel]

[truslack]

[tutton]

Ye back is spinning up everytime,
so lean back and pull on bars right.

the fort is where i live in my imaginary world where i can pop wheelies for 5 mins straight, fort it must be mentioned.. lol
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30