Riots on our streets

[cestrian]

I had a phone call this morning asking me to keep a close eye on the mainstream news outlets. I was to look out for reports of the rioting in Ravensthorpe in West Yorkshire.
I haven't seen anything on the mainstream media, has anyone else?

This is the only link I can find.....https://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/02/has-the-war-beg.html
(well there are others but I wont link them here)

So, how long before this behaviour is commonplace?

Regards

[D O G]

Can't see anything in any local newspapers. Not a thing.

I don't trust the press, but I don't trust the site you linked to either.

What is your point?

[bazza]

[cestrian]

[andrew]

Most of the stuff on that website reads like bullshit.

I don't trust the bbc but i trust that site even less.

[Mudskipper]

First it's asians and hungarians, then theyre on about iraqis and kurds being the scrappers?!?! That article makes little sense.
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[craigie b]

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Eastern-Europeans-targeted-by-angry.3648445.jp

[JonB]

Depends what they are rioting about.

I would be far inclined to get out on the street and stick up for my rights far more than fighting against an influx of immigrants.

Interstingly enough there was an article in the Times two Saturdays back explaining that more Polish are leaving the UK than entering.

I'd only ever get actively involved in a protest against another race if they started to implement their own ideological political theory within the UK, i.e Sharia Law.

This seems like a non-starter.
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[Kris]

[MattHirst]

Well i live in Thornhill Lees, about 1.5 miles from gravey (the name given to ravey/ravensthorpe around here )

It generally is the Iraqis and Kurds rioting, last time it was over the kurds touching up a hungarian woman or something

I once rode through while they were all shouting at balling at each other, just let them be. One less job for us to do
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[JonB]

Now all they need is a Frenchman to blow up a car and there will be a full scale riot.
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[cestrian]

[Mister James]

Judging from 4 years of observed behaviour in my line of work, many cultures are just as volatile and potentially violent in mobs as the stereotypical English hooligan.

It's difficult to point to any specific nationality, because it seems to be the done thing in any nation beyond Europe's borders - although the flashpoints are often slightly different.

I'd suspect that much of it is to do with a siege mentality, as many immigrants (rightly or wrongly) probably feel a little like my valued guests - a little hemmed in and vulnerable - which makes them more likely to stick together and get all rarred up over relatively minor things.

Doesn't make it right, of course; the only positive thing I can see about it is that things tend to calm down as quickly as they flare up.
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[Shay HTFC]

[bazza]

[Shay HTFC]

I don't understand what some BNP members' opinions on this matter have to do with anything?

They are not responsible, no matter what their opinions on the situation are.

The bottom line is that its either the Hungarians or Pakistanis who are at fault. The BNP can say whatever crap they want.

[Kris]

[bazza]

[D O G]

[Shay HTFC]

[colin1]

i used to work for a recruitment agency. Although I dealt with drivers, the other side of the office dealt with temporary industrial staff.

There was real tension between african temps and eastern european temps. This was mostly due to the fact that eastern europeans were taking the africans jobs because they were better workers.

Employers have noticed how good the average eastern european is compared to the average local or other varieties of immigrant.

So often employers will specify that they want 10 eastern europeans.

I didnt hear of riots but i did hear of a few occasions where rival groups had fights involving about 5 or more people on each side.

Also other times where threats and intimidation from africans would get eastern europeans to leave a place and not go back.
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[craigie b]

I remember going to Bradford to look at a car....It was like being in Asia in the UK. British society/law had completely broken down in those areas and it appeared no different to me than when I am in Asian.

There is no such thing as multiculturalism in the UK. There are British people and then there are 'them'. 'Them' being the various economic immigrants who come here to work (or rob the system) and choose to keep themselves exclusively within their own communities.

It is this failure of integration that causes tensions. Personally I can see why Asians fail to integrate properly, UK culture largely involves drinking which is something muslims and other Asian races do not often bother with.

You see real multiculturalism in Asia, where muslims live with Budhas, Chinese integrate with Indians etc. Indians celebrate Chinese festivals, Chinese celebrate Muslim festivities and people generally share their cultures with each other. This level of cross integration would be impossible to achieve in the UK IMO.

The website posted by cestrian certainly, IMO, shows how western media has managed to truly villianise Muslims and create a hatred that is pyschopathic.

Most muslims I meet out in Asia are moderate and easy going. Their food is good. Most Muslims who are Arabs and come from the middle east, I tend to hear more extreme stories about their attitudes and lifestyles.

An interesting note is that Labour has a large percentage of voters who are Muslim, meaning its in their interests to pander to Muslims.

The real solution IMO is to exert much stronger immigration controls , preventing an ever increasing influx of unwanted immigrants. Refuse benefits to immigrants. Until they pay tax they should get nothing. Basically we need to make the country seem as unattractive a destination as possible unless you can bring something positive to the nation.

As for the current tensions, I would start a zero tolerance policing in all ethnic areas and make it very apparent you abide by British law or fuck off. Any immigrant caught breaking the law would be deported (unless they could prove that this punishment would be detrimental to the country) and anyone caught who was an illegal would be fast tracked out to their country of origin.

I would probably advocate a two tier legal system, one for UK citizens (the current one) and a much stricter one for immigrants, simply to reduce the numbers. I know that sounds nasty, but people coming from rough countries, where death and crime are rife are hardly likely to have the same respect for our laxer laws and this mentality needs to be curbed.

The problem in the UK is that we try to keep everyone happy and thus succeed in making no one happy.

[bazza]

[thegubner]

[craigie b]