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Kris |
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Kris World Chat Champion
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Posted: 09:25 - 19 Mar 2008 Post subject: Chinese Gov murder peaceful demonstrators / censoring media |
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Recently (as you should all know) the Tibetans have been protesting the continued occupation of their country and ethnic cleansing* of their people by mass demonstrations, sometimes escalating into buildings being set on fire etc.
No one seems sure what caused the final spark for the recent protests, which have spread to many other regions since. One thought is China's recent media attention due to hosting of the Bejing Olympics.
Usually, small demonstrations are quickly dealt with by the Chinese authorities. A small group of armed soldiers will deploy and the protestors will be rounded up to either be killed (and body parts harvested), or sent to forced labour camps.
This time, the demonstrations were of a larger scale, and seemed to be more coherent, more organised in their quest. However, it is important to note that these demonstrations were initially very peaceful. That is until several protestors were mowed down indiscriminately by Chinese soldiers, and mass round-ups began.
Once a demonstrating group has reached a certain size, and the authorities refuse the right to peaceful protest, history teaches us that only one thing can happen. Civil unrest.
Unfortunately, now the Chinese authorities have stepped up operations against the Tibetans and as I type this, large groups have surrendered and the Chinese are doing round-ups and door-to-door searches. Sadly, I believe their fate is now sealed.
Meanwhile, as this has all been happening, media coverage of the scale of the atrocities (let's call a spade a spade, huh) has been completely quashed, or in the worst cases spun by several outlets as if the Tibetans are to blame. This, as history will no doubt show, is definately not the case.
China's human rights record further condemned, although when they come to Blighty they are welcomed like a second family.
Right, I'll stop ranting now and post some links. Some are very disturbing.
/rant
*- China forced Tibetan women to marry Chinese men.
China cracks down on protest news
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7302625.stm
The Chinese government and rights groups have provided radically different accounts of the past week.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7304144.stm
500 Hundred monks protest in Kanlho, Gansu Province
https://www.tchrd.org/press/2008/pr20080318a.html
Photographic evidence of the bloody crackdown on peaceful protesting Tibetan at Ngaba County, Sichuan Province, on 16 March 2008
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Skudd wrote: | Or you could go the other way like this country where all minorities rule the majority and kill majorities because the majorities don't agree with the minorities. |
Seems a very narrow way of thinking about it. If you were a minority here, would you not take advantage of the same system you complain about? It seems a little unjust to criticize people (many of whom are just trying to make the most of their lives) because of SOME violent immigrants who make unrest.
Especially when you compare it to the hooliganism of many of this country. Foreign football incidents for example, and the way we are so arrogant in every other country.
I'm not saying that there aren't violent immigrants that we could do without, but there are plenty of hardworking ones that put the effort into getting a life over here, and paying tax. And the 'majorities' in this country aren't majorities in the places where the 'minorities' kill them.
On the original topic, it would appear that when a REAL problem is occuring, the powers that be, are not going to attempt to intervene. However when there is money to be made and not human lives to be saved, it will become priority #1.
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killa Won't Shut Up
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Mister James I want to believe!
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pyroforlife wrote: |
Seems a very narrow way of thinking about it. If you were a minority here, would you not take advantage of the same system you complain about?
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Quite possibly - if I was the type of person that fitted the stereotype that many white people have of me. If I did play the system, I hope I wouldn't be hypocritical enough to pretend to not understand why it upset the 'native' majority.
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It seems a little unjust to criticize people (many of whom are just trying to make the most of their lives) because of SOME violent immigrants who make unrest.
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It's not just about foreign vermin on the streets raping and killing us, it's about the effect that Race Relations legislation has on every aspect of life.
My British-Asian mate (and hopefully future wife) has just joined the Met, and is terrified that she will be promoted/progressed because of what she is, not who she is. As it happens, she's bright, hardworking and already very experienced, so she'll go far - but will people believe she got there on her own merits?
To confuse the situation still further, I applied for the Met in November - and have yet to receive a date for even the Day 1 assessment. Yesterday I found that another asian lass of my acquaintance has received her Day 1 date for 2 weeks time - despite applying 2 months after me. Do you think that makes me more supportive of race relations, or less?
The irony is I persuaded both of them to apply for the Met in the first place, trying to put their fears at rest ref. them suffering racism. Now it's me that's being fucked over by 'my own people'!
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And the 'majorities' in this country aren't majorities in the places where the 'minorities' kill them.
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1) Yes they often are
2) If they weren't, would it make it ok?
3) If there are areas where whites are in the minority - that can raise a whole new area of complaint anyway! ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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Terrible as the quashing of Tibetan protestors is, China does not claim to be a bastion of human rights that other powers do...
For however evil they are at least they dont claim to be something they are not. The concept of human rights as a euro-centric thing that developed on the other side of the world to china... Why should they accept it as a fundamental principal?
https://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2004-05/12508938.jpg
https://metaversed.com/files/images/tiananmen-square-tanks.jpg
Same bullshit happens all over the world, when people without guns go up against those with them... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 41 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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