Had to post this Blatant attempted murder.

[TUG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ecyM55Q69Q&NR=1
What was the point in that? Seriously, why do that? If you dont like being overtaken dont buy a car, It seems he gets up afterwards but i bet he was seriously shook up. Good job he had a camera to give hard evidence to the police.
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[bazza]

Biker's fault. Bad obs.

Oh, and:


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[Ben.]

the car was overtakeing num nuts... not rying to kill someone
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[doggone]

As one of the comments says - look at the car ahead of the red one - its a long way ahead, not about to be overtaken.
He just yanked it over deliberately, meaning to scare/block the bike but it was quicker accelerating than he thought.

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[Phoenix]

You need to go to specsavers, before the bike goes to overtake the red car you can see there is another car just infront of the red one (not the one further up). Then when the bike overtakes and the car does, you can see the shadow of the other car it's overtaking too, now hidden by the red car.

Hard to say who's fault it was, as the car driver may well have checked and in the time it took him to check looked foward again to overtake and the bike went for it. But then he would've known there was a bike behind right up his arse poised to overtake so was silly to overtake while it was there. But the bike was very close during the whole thing.

I had this happen to me while overtaking a line of about 4 or 5 cars quite a few years ago, old woman in the middle of the line pulled out as I was coming past and hit the side of me, pushing me across the road, didn't damage me or the bike or her car or cause me to crash luckily (I was just coming up to a bridge across a big river). Was her fault as she obviously didn't check her mirror or look before she pulled out as I'd been coming past 2 vehicles already before getting to her. She was also driving with a broken leg in a cast

[DEN MONKEY]

I think LW could be right I think you catch a glimpse of a car just in front of the red one at about 8 seconds or so.

So possibly not as one sided as the video can make it seem
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[Whosthedaddy]

How the hell can the car see the bike when its up his chuff and in the blind spot.

The bike is too close.

The bike fails to plan ahead.

Neither car nor bike indicate their intentions.

I would assume that the car and bike were racing each other as they are on the straight for some time before the car pulls out to overtake when there is a line of traffic not just one car in front.

Having a camera on a bike is illegal anyways whether you wish to use it for evidence based reasons.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

I suspect he means that they are not useable for evidence for most things, rather than actually illegal.

All the best

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[Finglonga]

As said bike was way too close and didn't plan ahead it was easy to see the car was planning to overtake by his driving. Only an idiot would try to overtake a car in that situation.


This video is years old I am sure I have seen it on here before.
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[Aikman666]

Nah, cars fault definetly.
The bike pulled out to clear the car by quite a bit and it was acctually about 3 seconds between the bike crossing the white line and being hit. The bike is also not anywhere near 'too close' to the back of that car, and is probably indeed optimum road positioning for safety sake, and to indicate intention. You can also quite clearly see the speed at which that car SWERVES over to the very leftmost of the oncoming lane; nor does he swerve back over when he hits the bike - he continues to push it - and remember he would have been level with the passenger window by this point.

Wether is be through fucking terrible observation or road envy/rage whatever - that car was in the wrong.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

I would say the cars fault, but not that clear cut.

The car apear to indicate (very briefly) as they pull out. Seems under 2 seconds to be between the bike pulling out and the car doing so.

All the best

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[APNess]

We've all had near misses with cars. I usually keep an eye out for big 4x4 drivers, usually with a phone attached to their ear and hard to see with them things anyway.

If the rider had dropped back to get more space the car driver might have seen them in the mirror, as it is there may well have been a blind spot in the mirrors when both went for the overtake.

Hard to tell who's at fault with that one - though bike was already past the back end of the car when it pulled out on him/her, so I suspect the car driver will be at fault there for not looking properly (not just mirrors, looking over shoulder), just my opinion.
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thought I would throw my two bob in as its the first time i have seen the clip.

**Probably** the cars fault for not checking blind spot, but as everyone has said that rider is a fool for trying the overtake when it looks obvious the car in front was gearing up to get past the car in front.

He was riding far to aggressively for my liking!
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[yambabe]

50/50 imo.

The bike was too close to start with.

BUT it was obvious that the red car wanted to overtake the car in front, he'd already pulled out once to have a look forward. If the biker had had any sense he'd have either gone for it sooner (road looked clear) or hung back to see if the red car was going to go.

Car driver didn't appear to check for the bike before he went though, although I'm not sure if it was the light but he did appear to indicate as he made the move. Bit late then though...........

The other thing to remember is that many car drivers don't realise how quickly a bike can accelerate, and may have been aware of the bike behind him but still thought he could out-gun it as if it were just another car.

I might be giving him the benefit of the doubt, it could have been deliberate. Hard to tell.

I find it interesting that it seems the majority of the younger posters who seem to be baying for the blood of the car driver automatically, whilst the older ones can see that the biker put himself in a dangerous situation.
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[Aikman666]

Well I probably would have went for that exact same overtake to be honest. It seemed pretty well thought out and executed; I find it hard to beleive many of you would have waited thinking "Is this car going to overtake the otherone - or is it not". If you look at it in terms of doing things wrong; I can see nothing wrong with the bikers judgement at all apart from the age old rule of "Think about the stupidest thing that road user will do - then assume they'll do it". Whereas the car driver obviously didnt check his blind spot ASSUMING this wasnt an attempt to push the biker off the road.
Plus I find it hard to beleive the person in that car couldent HEAR the bike spooling up for the overtake; its hard to miss on big sports bikes.
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[Timmeh]

blind spot? Does the car not have a rear-view mirror? And we can clearly see the biker is in full view of his wing mirror even before the car's started to overtake.

Car driver didn't look, moreover care.

When you've got a Gixxer screaming up your arse the first thing you do is hear it. If he'd had checked his mirrors before moving he'd have seen the bike pulling out.

But the biker didn't see the danger. The red car had a look up the inside of the other one while braking, so it's fairly obvious it's about to attempt an overtake.

50/50.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

The bike is up close, and in a position where a glance in the mirror might well miss it, and it could easily be a 1~2 second gap from looking in one mirror to pulling out (eg, looks in side mirror, cannot see bike that they thought was there, looks to rear view mirror in which time bike has moved left and so still cannot be seen in mirror, then final check ahead and pulls out.

Sure, don't think the driver is anything like blameless, but that accident was pretty easily avoided by the rider.

All the best

Keith
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[repsolblade]

I agree with dog I thought the went to block the bike, Wanka, I think there was a bike in front so he knew there was other bikes car hopping, just being a prick

[stinkwheel]

Car driver should have used his mirror and indicated sooner.

Bike rider should have started further back, carried more speed into the overtake and been WAY further across to the left so there was no option of the car hitting him in the event of him pulling across to overtake too.

In short. The driver should have looked, the biker should have anticipated he wouldn't. Lack of eye contact in the rearview mirror would have told the biker that the car driver wasn't aware of the bikes presence and that he should tread carefully.

And those that didn't see the car that was being overtaken on the clip.
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[Skudd]

Looks to me that both the bike and car are at fault, neither plan very well or give each other room, the car should have done the MSN routine and the bike should have held back moved out then accelorated past the car. both are prats the only problem is as always the biker comes off worse because he is a bike.
Verdict= stupidity on both parts and both to blame
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