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PostPosted: 22:39 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Rules when buying a new lid Reply with quote

1 - Look at the price tag before you try it on.
2 - Look at the price tag before you make sure it fits properly.
3 - Make sure it fits properly.
4 - Look at the price tag before you think it looks good.
5 - Make sure you think it looks good.
6 - Look at the price tag before you check with shop assistant that it comes with the pin-lock visor.
7 - Check with shop assistant that it comes with the pin-lock visor
8 - Look at the price tag before you check you can use the vents with your gloves on.
9 - Check you can use the vents with your gloves on.
10 - Check the price before you decide it is really really really the one you want.
11 - Do not go home and say "Hi love look at my new helmet, it looks great, fits well, doesn't mist up and it only cost £400"

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PostPosted: 22:43 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:37 - 04 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

that made me chuckle nice one!
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Re: Rules when buying a new lid Reply with quote

£35 for a second hand Shoei off ebay... you don't cry so much when you roll on your head too Smile.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Secondhand lid??? You have too little respect for your noggin ol' chum.
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PostPosted: 08:37 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?

I bought a good lid that had the best fit for me I've found in a helmet so far, for a good price.

Maybe the previous owner could have lied about it's previous use and gone to a lot of effort to cover up all the signs it'd been used more than a few times.
But that seems unlikely for a £35 lid really.
It was just as likely to be used as a football by delivery people as one from a shop, I suspect.

For the record; it did the job when I rolled on my head at a reasonable speed (though I was in grass at that point, at least; but was really expecting my head to be hurting after, which it wasn't).
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to be a big advocate of second hand lids, but recently I tried a new helmet of the same type i used to own. I realised that with a new helmet, its a tigher fit and then it moulds to your head and gradually gets loser over the years.

That gap of a loose helmet means you are gonna lose a bit of protection.

I might still buy a secondhand helmet if I thought it hadnt been used much, but mostly now, I think i'll have new helmets of a slightly cheaper variety.

I know someone who buys a new nitro helmet each year. He's not bothered about the brand but he reckons replacing the lid often gives better protection and Im coming round to his point of view, although i probably wont replace every year.

Having said that I still have an astro R that I got second hand for £150 that I save for fast riding, and Im very happy with it.

£400 is the kind of money i would pay for a motorbike, not a helmet.

The more pricey helmets have better vents and visor system though.
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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11 - Do not go home and say "Hi love look at my new helmet, it looks great, fits well, doesn't mist up and it only cost £400"


For THAT price, it better have been an Arai Corsair! I was very reluctant paying 375 for mine, but saw the glass half full and realised that i got loads of goodies thrown in - cleaning kit, arai bag.

I wouldn't like to pay over 330-350 for a lid, but this is probably the only arai i'm ever gonna own.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better quality helmets tend to get looser much slower than not so good ones, in my experience.

I've bought helmets that have probably not been used much more than one you may buy new from a shop.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread on here a good long while ago, with links and stuff, that seemed to pretty conclusively prove that the most expensive helmets are not necessarily the best. I think a dirt-cheap one had one of the best performances. Something along the lines of the most expensive helmets have the hardest shells, and instead of absorbing energy they transmit it, to the skull/brain. Cheap ones deform more and absorb better.

I always used to buy the most expensive, but after doing some research, prompted by the thread, I went for the middle ground and bought a £200 AGV Stealth (which I got for £150, bonus). So far I'm highly impressed with it, though I can't comment on it's protective qualities, and hopefully will never need to.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that as with leathers, the top brands are the best at comfyness, good fit, and looks, but not necessarily best protection.

I might keep an eye out for helmet reviews for if they do a group test.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
There was a thread on here a good long while ago, with links and stuff, that seemed to pretty conclusively prove that the most expensive helmets are not necessarily the best. I think a dirt-cheap one had one of the best performances. Something along the lines of the most expensive helmets have the hardest shells, and instead of absorbing energy they transmit it, to the skull/brain. Cheap ones deform more and absorb better.


Yeah, that was all sparked off by an article in a US magazine called Motorcyclist. It used to be available online, but doesn't seem to be any more.

It was very US centric, mostly concerned with bashing the SNELL standard. Which needs bashing if the stats in the article are true.

ECE marked helmets are pretty good, from everything I've read, they should transmit less than 200G in most accidents, which is good.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i used to be a big advocate of second hand lids, but recently I tried a new helmet of the same type i used to own. I realised that with a new helmet, its a tigher fit and then it moulds to your head and gradually gets loser over the years.


No problems getting new liners for popular lids by Arai, SHOEI, HJC etc...

I dunno about SH lids, I suppose if the EPS liner looks good it probably is.

A lid I dropped onto concrete and a lid I crashed in both had fairly obvious damage to the EPS.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 05 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:


I've bought helmets that have probably not been used much more than one you may buy new from a shop.


Yeah i think a lot of the thing with helmets getting loose is how many times they have been put on and taken off.

So my old hjc is really loose, whereas the new one i bought recently which is the same type, isnt.

So as long as you buy your second hand helmet from someone who hasnt used it much, you are probably ok.

This makes me even more keen to have one helmet for everyday riding, and another helmet with better vents etc for long rides.

The cheap one will wear more as its getting more use, and Im not damaging the better one that I can save for best.
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