Going to look at new bike...

[Ste]

Well, Ive found a ZX6R, which might be ok...

Its a 1999, race bike, not been raced. new camchain just fitted, 3 sets of wheels and tyres, 4 spare engines, spare nose cone, fairing, sub frame, seat, other bits and bobs. brand new ART exhaust system.

Im gonna try and go and have a look at it on wednesday evening. If the guy is in then, would anyone who lives near London (Its in Islington) be able to come, cos I dont know quite so much what Im looking for/ thing to look for.

He said he bought the bike last year from his local shop, and made it into a race bike. I forgot to ask if he still has all the road bits or not.

Only problem might be getting it upto MOT standard :S

Any comments/ advice welcomed

[raps]

Im from west london mate, i dont think islington is too far from me. But I dont know if i would be much help, i only got my first bike, Honda NSR in dec last year, so im a newbie right now.

Im sure one of the other guys here will be able to help

[Ropehead]

Just a little tip... dont buy the first bike u see even though it is VERY tempting and if anything looks dodgey walk away,
also CASH talks

[McJamweasel]

Hmmm. Race bike thats not been raced? With all of thoses spares? Hmmm.

Id make sure that you get a HPI check done and als ask the guy why hes selling it. How much anyway?
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[TiN]

As Col says, it's a bit dodgy that someone would have prep a bike for racing, and not racing...and surely he can get more money if he just stuck on a road kit and sold it as a road bike?...having said that, if it's cheap, then buy it and then break it for parts...you should be able to make a profit
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[McJamweasel]

Just another thought - the only reason I can see for turning a road bike into a race bike without racing it is if was crashed. And you wouldnt go to all thet effort for a 10mph drop would you?

Summat else to think about and another reason why its important to get the HPI check done. Dont forget - if it turns out to be stolen or have HP owing on it then you could have the bike taken off you.
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[Guest]

[quote="McJamweasel"]Just another thought - the only reason I can see for turning a road bike into a race bike without racing it is if was crashed. /quote]

Just what I was going to say, but McJamweasel beat me to it

It may well be cheap compared to a road bike, but you could spend loads getting it road legal/worthy and find it's cost you much more than you thought. Also, have you got the time (assuming you've got the knowledge) to work on it, could end up being off the road most of the summer!

It's not the way I'd go, but thats just my opinion.

[retrofly]

hi
thers no harm in looking at it, u never know the bloke might actually be telling the truth, he might have bought a raod bike, done it up but hasnt had time/cash to do the racing so hes decided to sell it, its a possiblity. Anyway, dont act enthusiastic, make lots of bad comments aboutt the bike, point out all defects scrtacthes, rust, and ask laods of questions

Luke
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[kev]

also when you do the hpi check get the numbers for all the spare engines and check them too
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[Zimma]

I'd say get G or Kev to come look at it with ya, I'd be happy to come along too if I can find the time
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[Ste]

Right then. So I'll need to get details of all the part numbers and all that. Could be quite a nice list

He sounded genuine enough. But that isnt much to go on. I'll get the name of the shop and ring that and check it was bought by him from them as he claims.

It did occur to me that it might have been crashed and or stolen I assume the HPI check will give details like this on all part numbers you give?

Is the MCN HPI check, which is like £39.99 a good one to use? If I ring them once, will they be able to check all the parts for that one go?

And looking at getting it road legal. I might just see if a shop will do some of it for me, cos I will need to get it through an MOT as well :S I cant see it costing more than about £200 at the very most to get it road worthy. I dont care about having track tyres on it, or a race can tbh.

Anyone be able to come along (zimm, kev, g or similar ppl) if he is able to view it then?

[kev]

200 maby if you do it yourself but if you take it to a shop your looking at about 500 at least
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[Robby]

hmm... 4 spare engines and says its never been raced, theres got some lies there.

but even if it had been raced, as long as its not stolen and you can get it road legal for a reasonably price, go for it.

[Doddmaster]

Even if it has been raced, there's no chance all the engines are fucked.
You could sell off 2 or 3 engines and make a shitload of cash anyway

[Scooby]

At a guess I would say it has been raced and he's lying. If he isn't it's almost certainly been crashed or tea-leafed. Even if the engine and/or frame is legit, there's nothing to say half the parts aren't nicked from other bikes anyway, and hardly any way of you checking realistically. Like Robby says, if it has been raced it could be a good thing cos he will have looked after it, and if he hasn't why does he have 4 spare engines?
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[Phoenix]

You still haven't said how much it is. Seems like you're trying to take the hardest route to getting a new bike. Just go for something that's already fit to be ridden on the road, plenty of reasonably priced ZX's around.

And do you really believe that a race bike with 4 engines has never been raced?

[G]

I don't mind coming to have a look *but* it'd have to be the weekend. If it's over 3 years old then you're coing to have to get an Mot which may bump it up a fair bit, with lots of niggly bits, especially if it hasn't got the road bits with it.

[Ste]

Its £1795

Im not gonna go, cos just spoke to him, and he doesnt have the logbook from when it was a road bike, or any of the paperwork/ engine numbers or anything like all the stuff I can use to check its not nicked :S :S

Oh well, back to the search.

Its a harder route to getting a bike, but you can get a lot more for your money by doing it that way, but I reckon im going to find a normal bike which is road legal as it is.

[TiN]

Do you actually have the cash? or do you need to sell the NSR first?
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[Ste]

Well, I *might* be able to borrow the money from my dad so I can then sell the NSR at a good price as opposed to the first offer I got.

Dont suppose you know a ZX6R/ CBR600 or the like going atm then tin?

[Demonic69]

How much you looking at spending Ste? There's loads of 1998-on CBR6s around for under £3k
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[Ste]

Well, I reckon I could get about £2600-£2750 ish for the NSR. A honda dealer told me they would give me £2300 there and then for it.

And thats wot i will have to spend on a new bike, and then take a way about £100 to get restrictor + cert.

[Demonic69]

Puff
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[TiN]

£2300 sounds pretty damn good from a dealer, especially at this time of year...and I'd hate to say it, but I doubt that you'll get £2750, considering that new imports can be had for around £2999 (yes yes, I know all about the import vs. UK bike debate, but how many ppl actualy pay attention?). Try a p/x at a dealers, they should be offer something around £2500 for your bike.

Sorry for sounding so negative, and of course you could be lucky and get a very good price for your bike, but I know that I wouldn't
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[Robby]

restrictors fitted with cert will be closer to 200