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Nova66
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: 1998 CG125 misfire? Reply with quote

Poor, poor me. First bike after CBT, I go for a reliable CG125 (£600) in the hope that nothing will go wrong as I haven't the time money or expertise to sort anything out with a bike. Within 2 weeks the bike seemed to develop a misfire and I can barely get it to 30, the lights are dimmer than a tealight and to top it all off the speedo doesnt work, there's a hole somewhere in the exaust (?) and the centre stand doesn't even hold the bike up.

I'm taking it back to the guy I bought it from tommorow, I'm pretty sure he'll tell me where to go if I ask for my money back, but does anyone have any ideas as to how much this would cost for a mechanic to fix it incase I'm going to haveto bite my lip and shell out??

Poor me!! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it sold as seen?
mot?

the lights are shite anyway, charge the battery if it matters that much.

clean out the carb, would probably sort out the misfire/running badly.

get a bit of exhaust putty on the exhaust, that should fix it.

check the speedo cable is attached firmly both ends / rotating when the wheel turns.

centrestands are usless on the CG anyway, just use the sidestand.

total cost, fiver for some exhaust putty and a few hours work.


Cheers
John
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love you.

Thank you for stopping my breakdown temporarily. The speedo is definatly broken as the cable doesnt work?! so I guess I need a new one but the misfire is my main problem. I'm pretty sure the guy put the bike together from parts which is fine but I heard that can mean the misfire is harder to fix?

It was sold as seen but the guy is a mechanic and said he worked on the bike himself and nothing should go wrong with it. If it did to take it back to him and he would fix it.... it has 12 months MOT though so really nothing should be going wrong!! I forgot to mention the brakes are by no means road worthy, so perhaps a dodgy MOT was involved?
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

misfire sounds like the battery is flat.
check the output of it, cannot remember the specs but virus should know (how the hell are you old boy Thumbs Up )
other than that a speedo cable is a £5er from a breaker or £12 ish new.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 20 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys this is really helpful, if not very reassuring! The guy has cancelled tomorrow so I'll be going back on sunday instead (he lives in Croydon so it's a bit of a trek for me). I'm down by Brighton so pretty much the farthest you can get from Camb, thanks so much for the offer though, it's so generous of you! I guess I'm going to try and get my money back first of all as I really have no experience and I don't want to wreck it trying, if not I'm gonna haveto get myself a screwdriver and some guts. Oh I just want it to be fixed so I can ride it and have fun. Humph Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like your very unlucky mate. I know 3 people who have owned CG's models from 92-04 and non of them have had a single (big problem) with there bike.

the misfiring sound like it could easily be fixed with just a little know how and time.

charge the battery (or replace the battery) and clean out the carbs ( an hour or twos work depending if you know what your doing)

so also try changing the spark plug. I had a mis firing problem with my nsr and i tired everything, new carb, new fuel pipes changed the battery nothing worked untill i changed the spark plug haha

any problems we are here to help! trust me once you get your CG running sweet it will stay like it forever if you look after it.

ps. i hope you changed the oil :-p
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

im heading down to brighton next week on my CG if its not fixed i dont mind spending an hour or so helping ya fix!
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 21 Feb 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odie wrote:
misfire sounds like the battery is flat.
check the output of it, cannot remember the specs but virus should know (how the hell are you old boy Thumbs Up )
other than that a speedo cable is a £5er from a breaker or £12 ish new.



im surviving chap, hows things up your end?


chaging system output for earlier cgs, (1976-85) so i cant garuantee this is right for your 98:

engine running, lights off: 4k 8.5v, 2 amp.
engine running, lights off: 8k 8.8v, 3.7amp.


if you dont have a multimeter then these are useless, but basically, charge your battery, change the plug (post a pic of the old one as it came out of the engine if you can) then take it for another run, making sure its warm before attempting to go through the rev range in all the gears. also, it may be worth putting a shot of redex (halfords £2) into the tank next time you fill up, this should clear the carbs and help it run better.

oh and with the brakes, get a 14mm spanner and tighten the nuts on the end of the rod (on the back) and the cable (front drum) if you have drum brakes, cant remember off the top of my head if it was hydraulics on the 98.

Cheers
John
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 12 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just incase any of you were particularly interested in whats happening about this mess....

That guy turned out to be a complete sod, he "fixed" the bike and tried to sell it on, though it sold for less that what I paid, it was on his eBay account, but he had changed the listing details from the original so it was basically unfindable! I wish I could have my revenge... but with counselling I am learning to let go...(!) Anyway, I refused to sell, held onto the documents and got it back off him. What a waste. He had the cheek to say "If you have any more problems, bring it back to me, we always say that because if you take it to anyone else they'll just tell you everything is wrong with it". Middle Finger

So it is now in the capable hands of an ex-Honda mechanic, recommended by John Harris (for any of you South-Easters')! Hopefully he will sort this all out, I am nearing my dissertation hand-in and just want a bike to ride!! The Honda guy had a quick once over and thought that bloke has done a proper job on it, should be fixable but the idiot appears to have fiddled around with it without knowing what he was doing, and now the bike will only run on half-choke, plus my mechanic thinks he has possibly stripped it of a few non-essentials... such as the battery amongst other things!! (Not surprising as when I picked my bike back up he had even taking the keyring off the ignition key! Cheap b***ard! - Any 'name-n-shame websites?!) He said because it's a manual start it doesn't necessarily need one as it runs straight off the generator, which could explain the dimmer-than-the-guy-I-bought-it-off lights....

Anyway, summer is nearly here, all my responsibility will be over by the end of May, and I'm hoping sooner rather than later I can get back on my beauty and get some practice in before they change the test crit. in October!!
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 13 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

it will run without a battery, i used to run mine like that, but the lights will be flickery and youve got no hope in hell of your indicators actually flashing untill your above a certain revs, as thats when the alternator really kicks in and can provide the needed oomph.

Cheers
John
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