Whats the best deal i could get? *UPDATE* - Bought an ER-6f

[Biker101]

Looking at buying a GS500F brand new next month.

So its £3649

0% for 30 months with £1 deposit

Free restrictor kit - does this include fitting?

Also i want crash bungs fitted before i take delivery

I'm also interested in an alpinestars jacket my suzuki dealer sell for £150

So what price should i be looking to pay for all this?

Thanks
Mike
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[colin1]

I think you should consider a second hand bike rather than a new one, for many reasons.
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[Tango675]

The GS500F is not the greatest bike in the world. But there is something to be said for band new.

Not sure if the crash bungs and jacket can go on the finance as it may be a deal through suzuki not through the dealers finance.
he may give you a 10-25% discount on both if you are lucky.
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[Itchy]

No seriously no , the GS500F is just the GS500E with a fairing on it,

Either spend some more and at least get an SV or buy an 04/05 600 sports bike , the GS500 although is nearly unkillable (except in the hands of couriers). Perhaps a bandit? ,

You'll also be surprised how quickly it rots, a GS500F parked next to me in Manchester for a few months, it rotted very quickly the fairing may well hide it but this leads to more problems, while my CBR might be fully faired , its made from alloy and stainless.
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[Biker101]

I get what you guys are saying but i want something that is faired, fairly new, at least looks a little sporty and is cheap to insure, dont like the sv or bandit and i have looked at every bike on the market and its either this or a 600 sports, since this is half the cost to insure compared to say an R6 (which seems to be the cheaper of the 600's) it ticks all the boxes.

I want new because a good used one is £2K minimum, plus 3 years worth of MOT'ing, no warranty if anything goes wrong, would have to get finance and pay interest, would have to buy restrictors. It works out pretty good since the finance is for 2.5 years and i will keep it for my restriction period so by the time i become unrestricted it will be paid off or there abouts.

If anyone can recommend a good alternative then by all means speak up but i have looked and cant find. Realistically i can stretch to an R6 but the insurance is crippling.

Also, it doesn't matter if it rots, it will be kept in a nice warm garage and only brought out on nice sunny days, if there's rain i have the car.
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[chris-red]

GS's aren't great bikes. I own one Don't buy one brand new (infact dont buy one at all!) They are a cheap secondhand bike for commuters or people starting out, spend £3k on a decent bike.
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[G]

Do you expect you'll be interested in the performance/handling of the bike over the looks, which sound important to you?
Something like an SV is a fair bit 'more' bike for similar money.


Have you rung around for lots of insurance quotes on a bigger?
Remember a cheaper bike you can go TPFT.
How about something like an older ZX6, if you want a still moderately 'sporty' look (J model).

[Itchy]

Warranty? , warranty is almost worthless these days , as Babyyam says you'd be surprised at what isn't covered by warranty.


Lets see

CBF500 = grp 10 naked but a MUCH better bike
GS500F = grp 9
CBF600 = grp 11/12 sort of look a tad like the SV with a bikini fairing but hasa high OTR price
SV650S = grp 10 looks fairly sporty esp fully faired version

Quite a jump here

R6 = grp 15


Also you implying that no MOT for 3 years is a good thing , hell if the MOT was every 10 years I'd still check over it every 3 months, bikes aren't cars you can't just let them rot and decay especially a GS500, you may have read in my other thread my brake calipers seized 1 month after a full overhaul , your bike new or otherwise will have similar vulnerabilties, you will still have to do the valves every 14-18K, you will still need new airfilter, new chain oil changes etc.
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[Biker101]

Well looks are important, if i dont like the look of it i dont want to ride it, full stop, its the reason i didn't get a CG for my 125, heart over head and all that.

BUT its a first big bike so i want something easy to handle and forgiving which i am told this is.

[Itchy]

ER6 perhaps? ? ,

Ninja 250?
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[G]

If, say, looks are worth £2k and a not-as-good ride to you, then <shrugs>, do it.

As to your original question - you should be paying the lowest you can get it for - hassle the dealer .
What discounts etc you can blag depend on a lot of things. I wouldn't expect a big discount if you're taking out 0% finance on it, though.

[Biker101]

[Biker101]

[St0rmer66]

What about a GSX650F? Better than a GS500F for sure..

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Suzuki/Suzuki-GSX650F-2007-current/

Think I'd still rather have an ER6-F though for sure. Look really good in black!
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

The ER6 and GS500 run a very similar engine configuration but the Kawasaki is a much more modern design whereas the Suzuki is still running basically the same engine design for the last 20 years.

The Kawasaki will still be extremely forgiving and easy to learn on, but a much better bike in the long term I should imagine, and much more capable of taking two people due to it's extra power. If you can afford one then I'd go for that.

[G]

A 33hp r6 or other similar bike will probably be more 'forgiving' powerwise than a 33hp GS500 or ER6.
It will have sharper brakes, which could cause some problems - but also can take stickier rubber and will have handling which has to be pushed more before it bites.

[chris-red]

Buying a new bike isn't a way to save money.

No Mot's etc. yeah great your save £80 over 3 years whoop de do, thats fuck all in bike terms.


You do know to keep your warranty up you will need main dealer servicing. You also know that Suzuki recomend you check the valve clearences every 4000 miles (This is expensive to get done main dealer). You miss one of those services probably around £400 every 4k miles you warranty is void. Don't buy a new bike and don't buy a GS500, they are 25 year old technology at least.
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Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.

[veeeffarr]

Seriously, listen to the people on here.

Don't buy a GS, there are so many more better bikes in the world, they're completely, and utterly, shit. Great if you pick them up cheap, and their complete crapness gives off a certain charm, but if I biffed 3 grand on one I'd fucking cry.

T

[chris-red]

You had/have one as well dont you?

Listern to people that have owned them, they are pants, really pants.
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Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
WANTED:- Fujinon (Fuji) M42 (Screw on) lenses, let me know if you have anything.

[G]

Note that now you don't have to have main-dealer work for warranties to count - laws came in a few years ago. However they will have more to quibble over if you get it done at an independent.

[strag]

[veeeffarr]

[hmmmnz]

im going to have to agree, i loved my gs, and i still think they are great bikes, but if you buy a new one, especially one with fairings, then your a mug. a gs500 has no resale value at all, you might save 80quid on mots but you'll lose 2500 on resale. you'll be sick to death of the lack of power by the time 30 months is up,

in my eyes the er6f is the way to go, if you are hell bent on getting a parralell twin with fairings
https://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w544h408_000003400D200008.jpg

but im sure you'll do what you want
good luck
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[Shay HTFC]

I got mine for less than 500 quid, but wouldn't buy one new, no way.

For the time being just get a second hand one. You'll be gutted in 6 months time when it's gone down on it's side making the resale value even less than it already was.

2nd hand when you're starting off in my book anyway. I'm only considering buying brand new when I can afford a decent bike, not some learner bike that I aim to get rid of in 9 months.

How much money do you have? Enough to be able to throw away 2 grand as soon as you wheel it out of the showroom?
You'll be able to get a tidy 2nd hand one for a fraction of the cost and if you really want it to look tarty, just get some cleaning products and clean it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HREqf4wIukA

You really will kick yourself in 6 months when you realise how much money you have wasted buying a new bike that you intend to sell in a short while.
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[Biker101]

Well i was pretty set on getting it until i started this thread.

I now dont think i want one, it seemed to tick all the boxes but now i'm unsure.

A local dealer of mine has a nice er6n in for £3K, ex demonstrator which looks nice. Suppose i would be able to haggle more since its used and maybe get the restrictor fitted for free or something. Your all probably laughing at me having the bike restricted but i want to stay legal so they wont be falling out.

I can afford to get about £3500 if i pay over 2 - 3 years, my dad will get the loan as i have no credit history due to my age except my bank account which isn't enough for these ultra low rate loans and i will set the DD from my account. I basically have a decent wage and live at home so have no bills except £60/month for car insurance and £20 for gym so i can easily afford it so i might aswell treat myself to something decent rather than an old banger for a first big bike.

Although the er6f looks good in that pic too. Insurance is same as g500f too so not bad.

Hmmm, decisions decisions, well will make my mind up if i pass my test, if the er6 is still there i may well go for that.