Tony Blair or Gordon Brown?

[JonB]

Now GB has had some time to "settle in", in hindsight who do you think had been the better PM/leader?

After yesterdays "U-Turn" on the 10p tax rate the BBC reported mutterings of "this wouldn't have happened under Tony Blair". Which could be an indication that Browns leadership is under threat.


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[Itchy]

Neither they are as bad as each other, the only difference is that TB to some people had some charisma and thus could deflect some of the blows that were struck against him.

Ie when Walterwolfgang was arrested as a terrorist , he said yeah whatever....

Nobody seems to have learnt from history , those who seek power are least suitable to hold it.
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Where's the option for "Neither, both are lying cheating criminal scum"?
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[craigie b]

I think its a moot question. Tony Blair has bailed just prior to the shit hitting the fan. Regardless of present PM, neither would be popular at the minute as the good times are coming to an end.

I think Blair bailed intentionally, so history remembers him as the successful PM. People are very short sighted and the current problems facing the UK will be landed squarely on Browns new government, not on the past follies of Teflon Tony.

[JonB]

IMO they are both shite, GB went through a honeymoon period initially but in my eyes he seems to care more about keeping "terrorists" in custody for 42 days than helping out the average citizen in these economic times of need.

Apparantly a Poll yesterday put Tories with 46% of vote, labour 26% and Lib Dems 17%.

I assume there will be an election next year, although GB will probably use 5 years and go for the election in 2010.
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[Grav]

Neither.

Blair sent our armed forces to war based on Lies, then denied he ever lied, then the guy that wrote the report and called Blair a liar was found suspiciously bereft of life.

Gordon Brown has betrayed the very people that Labour was founded to fight for by doubling the tax burden upon them whilst pandering to the rich.

Stalin would be so proud of those two
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snigger.....

[WildGoose]

Strangely enough I passed a "vote labour" sign on somebodys house today. I just couldnt comprehend how anyone could still be thinking in favour of them.
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[colin1]

I have to admit, that I thought TB would be ok before he got in, but I thought the invasion of Iraq was misguided bordering on criminal. I dont like thinking about the number of people who died as a result of TB thinking it would be a good idea.

I thought GB would be better, he seems more of a sensible chap, but one of the first things he does is increase taxes on poor people. Annoyingly, I also have to realise that I am one of these poor people. £18k is an aspirational wage for me, so i find it a bit depressing when the news talk about low earners being 18k and under. So I disapprove of that morally, and also because it may well hurt me personally.

However Cameron seems more of a tit than GB. I havnt got much faith in any of them but I dont think I'm the only one.
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[Itchy]

[Weedy]

"Education. Education. Education."

So, now we have teachers on strike because the Govt. won't give them a 4% payrise. Wasn't too long ago we had Firemen/women on strike because of the total lack of payrise. I don't know if anyone saw the pictures in the paper of RAF Brize Norton recently, but that's a total mess.

They're clearly doing a great job of looking after the people that look after the country. What hope is there for the "normal" people?
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[Itchy]

[Weedy]

Itchy, that post was pretty interesting.

I'm off to fill in an emigration form now.
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[WildGoose]

So, saving for a pension is a wasted exercise, and there will be no state pension for anyone by the time I get there...


What exactly does that leave us as an option when we are too old to work?
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[colin1]

[Jaloopa]

At least Blair was voted in. Brown just inherited the title.

Democracy? What democracy?
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please shoot both of them lol
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