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PostPosted: 10:31 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: It's started - England is no more Reply with quote

https://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/EuRegionsMapL_468x388.jpg

Like the look of it? That's what will now be known as the "Manche Region". Southern England and Northern France will become one area.

Similarly, western England, Wales, Ireland, and parts of Portugal, Spain, France and Scotland will now be known as the "Atlantic Region".

Eastern England, including areas of Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Norway and the Netherlands will join to make the "North Sea Region".


Allow me to paste a small snippet from the source, so the cynics among you can see just how serious this is.


The UK Government is fully behind the project, even though the words "England" and "Britain" are left off official maps of each area and the Manche Region renames the English Channel "The Channel Sea".

Each region, which will be given taxpayers' money to promote trade links, cultural ties, transport policies and tourism, is to be run by a "managing authority" of unelected officials overseen by a director.

None will be based in the UK, with Manche ruled by the French, Atlantic by the Portuguese and North Sea by the Danes.






Spokesman: It is about support for business, helping boost employment and turning around deprived areas]

Yeah, like the EU was just a trading agreement back in the 70's, right?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=561342
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right I am starting an Army, who wants to be an advisor? (someone clever please)

Lets take England back.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Right I am starting an Army, who wants to be an advisor? (someone clever please)

Lets take England back.



Ever seen the young ones?

The episode where the character played by Rik Mayall says, quite out of the blue;

"I know! Let's start a people's army and seize control of the state!"

He barely even finishes his sentence before dozens of armed police burst through the windows and doors.

That would be considered a joke 20 years ago.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck em, I am in a good mind to email my local council and the government telling them I will no longer be paying council tax until they can prove England is English and the money is going back into England.

I really am, if there were enough people I would march on parliament and declare a rebellion, but there will never be enough people.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Fuck em, I am in a good mind to email my local council and the government telling them I will no longer be paying council tax until they can prove England is English and the money is going back into England.

I really am, if there were enough people I would march on parliament and declare a rebellion, but there will never be enough people.


Seconded.

Anyway, a march on parliament wouldn't do much, apart from getting people shot for 'rioting'.

Let's face it, 'power to the people' is a complete farce. Politicians live in ivory towers protected by their police lapdogs. If people were to revolt now, the only thing that would result would be 'tragic' civilian casualties.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Ah the Daily Mail god bless 'em.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and? , the thing is politicians have sold the country out on future bribes.

Ie Blunkett had an interest in EDS who conviently was to provide the tech for ID cards, no conflict of interest there is there.

Current batch of MPs have sold out to the EU who is unaccountable to anybody not even its auditors.

However somebody forgot to tell these MPs by 2015-2020 Europe will be economically ruined, even BMW is moving its plants away from Europe. And you can't run an economy on retail without huge trade deficits which can't last long.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So in plain English, is this actually happening or not?

Is England going to cease to exist?
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just plan B, they tried to split England into regions to have more control over us, it failed this is just plan B, if they fail this they will try plan C and D and E and so on.

The only way to prevent it happening is if the Euro collaspes , which there is a fair chance of it actually happening.

London makes lots of money right? , it subsidises us people in the north. Londoners don't like this , but its semi acceptable as we are all English (more or less) right?.

Currently the US is exactly the same , some states are wealthy some are poor and there is cross subsidy between the states, but they are ALL americans right, and all english speaking and all have things in common right?.


They are trying to do the same in Europe , Germany is the engine of the EU, its economy is booming, Spain and Italy are languishing badly, thus you can't decrease interest rates as normal as this would hurt Germany , you can't increase them as Germany wants cus it'd hurt Spain + Italy.

Thus a need for cross subsidy, the thing is although people are ok about subsidising their own people as above examples, they are less good about subsidising other countries like those flipping Polish guys on TV last year who complained but if we don't get our EU money we cannot finish our motorways.

Us Brits say why should we subsidise X and Y , the Germans are thinking the same.

It just shows one size doesn't fit all,
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/EuRegionsMapL_750x622.jpg
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The UK Government is fully behind the project, even though the words "England" and "Britain" are left off official maps of each area and the Manche Region renames the English Channel "The Channel Sea".


It quite clearly says South East England right there in red fucking letters.
This map has been made in France, they call the channel La Manche. Just like every map from France would.
The Mail journo must have found this out on his research but decided to gloss over it so that the inept readers would believe every word as gospel.

This is like the blind leading the blind.

Put on your tin foil hats.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The enemy is within. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hoodwink, the words on a map are the least of my concerns.

"Each region, which will be given taxpayers' money to promote trade links, cultural ties, transport policies and tourism, is to be run by a "managing authority" of unelected officials overseen by a director."
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused So basically then, it's just rehashing how everything is currently run anyway?
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

h00dwink wrote:
Confused So basically then, it's just rehashing how everything is currently run anyway?


That's how they would want it to appear. Somewhat watered down = not much of a change if any, so nothing to worry about.

Just my opinion.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
So in plain English, is this actually happening or not?

not
the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:

Is England going to cease to exist?

no
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
So in plain English, is this actually happening or not?

Is England going to cease to exist?


Guv, They'll let you call it England to keep you quiet.

I woke up this morning and saw Liebours Frank Field had got 46 MP's to sign his ammendment and that Darling was considering helping the worse off with some extra fuel payments and tax credits. I thought "hmmm, it's St. Georges day and the headlines are being stolen with this tripe, what are they covering up?"

Just a thought.

Colin1, re your last post...is that just your opinion or do you have proof?

ETA. Another link... https://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/163-europe-wipes-britain-off-the-map/


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PostPosted: 14:54 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
So in plain English, is this actually happening or not?

nit


Well I am sorry for not understanding things written in some of the longer words, at least I am asking for some one to explain things rather than ignorantly leave it.

Here is something I do understand and expect you will too.

Fvcking prick.
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Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: 15:04 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Here is something I do understand and expect you will too.

Fvcking prick.
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He might not, it's not a word after all. Can't you swear like a big boy?
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Here is something I do understand and expect you will too.

Fvcking prick.
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He might not, it's not a word after all. Can't you swear like a big boy?


Not on my quest for a gold blob no I fvcking cant.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:

Which shows a completely different map. Complete inconsistency with the story and would you guess why?

Cause the Daily Mail and the like are really clutching at straws with this story, making a mountain out of a molehill.

I dunno about any body else but here's hoping that finally the South can break away from the North. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMAO. Cestrian, I hope you realised that link you posted dates back to August 2007 and the picture 2006. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
LMAO. Cestrian, I hope you realised that link you posted dates back to August 2007 and the picture 2006. Laughing


Just shows you it's already been planned for quite some time and no ones taking any notice. Do articles 2 years old have no merit?
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gives a shiit Jon, it's just something for people to look at, they can choose not to. Anyway, what's your opinion on the whole story? (that is your own opinion, not your lecturers)
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm as English as the next man, and don't really like being tied in with the frogs, but at the end of the day two things come to mind.

There must be like a 5% chance of this happening. Let's be honest the Daily Mail aren't exactly the pinnacle of accurate reporting, one could argue they are as sensational as the red tops.

No EU constition or treaty will ever be able to steal British/English heritage. We can be under the bracket of Manche region, but as for discrediting our Englishness? We couldn't be any further away from European culture if we tried.

So le Francais can fucké off. Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 23 Apr 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
So in plain English, is this actually happening or not?

nit


the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Well I am sorry for not understanding things written in some of the longer words, at least I am asking for some one to explain things rather than ignorantly leave it.

Here is something I do understand and expect you will too.

Fvcking prick.
Middle Finger

Hope this helps.

Andy


sorry, i didnt mean to put nit, it was meant to read "not" genuine typo the i is next to the o

lol

completely unintentional and now fixed
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