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Skudd
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Chain tool Reply with quote

just putting a new chain on my bike and I haven't a chain tool for the soft link. getting the old chain off wasn't a problem, angle grinder did that for me. The soft link is the problem now. it isnt that soft. tried a g clamp on it to try and spread the end but no joy. What have others used or done when they haven't a chain tool? By the way I don't have a split link as it is an OE Honda part.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A hammer and punch is the second option, if you can support the back of the link with something.

Other than that, I'd bite the bullet and buy a chain rivetter.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you removed the old chain before figuring out how you were going to fit the new one, common sense might come in handy in the future.

Even with a split link chain it's a pain putting the link on, I really doubt you'll manage to do it with a hammer, your only option is to buy a chain tool, pay a shop, or find someone near you who has the tool.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I borrowed summit similar to this:

https://www.mandp.co.uk/netalogue/photos/large/500600.jpg

https://www.mandp.co.uk/productInfo.aspx?catRef=500600 off a mate to do mine.

Like a G clamp type thing, but with the correct squashing bits (technical term).
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Motrax chain tool and have done chain and sprockets twice with it (with the soft links). Very simple and effective.

Cost about £60 but has paid for itself now.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

There are two types of rivet on link. The soft kind (normally have a dimple on the end of the pins, and the kit Mudskipper posted about will do them fine) and the hard kind (basically a normal extra link).

2nd kind are a total pig to do. You will need a proper tool for the job (Whale one from B&C is probably the best one to use). You could try the kit above but likely you will wreck the kit without succeeding with the chain.

All the best

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Skudd
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
So you removed the old chain before figuring out how you were going to fit the new one, common sense might come in handy in the future.
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I had thought about when I was putting it back on as I have done chains in the past, it is just that this "soft" link isn't as "soft" as I have been used to. I have use the old hammer and punch in the past but for some reason, and it might because I'm getting weaker with age, this link is a bit tougher and just wondering if anyone had other ideas or techniques, As I only need to change a chain every three years or so the price of a chain tool cannot be justified at the moment. or it maybe because the carpet in the garage is too thicker pile.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus, I thought my house got messy at times but I'd never manage to lose a full exhaust system in it!
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Re: Chain tool Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
just putting a new chain on my bike and I haven't a chain tool for the soft link. getting the old chain off wasn't a problem, angle grinder did that for me. The soft link is the problem now. it isnt that soft. tried a g clamp on it to try and spread the end but no joy. What have others used or done when they haven't a chain tool? By the way I don't have a split link as it is an OE Honda part.


Get the chain against a hard surface and use the ball end of a hammer no punch or anything and watch the rivet spread hey presto . Me and our kid spent hours with hammer and punch trying to fit his and when we spoke to the guy that worked on the parts counter at bradford motor cycles(that used to be a mechanic)he told us ball end of an hammer and you will have no probs
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 08 May 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you remove the swinging arm? Can on my Fazer and its pretty easy too. If you need to replace the chain then regreasing the swingarm is probably due anyway Confused
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