Idiot friend

[Biker101]

Got a friend, basically i'll sum it up quickly below:

Summer 06 - Passes CBT, riding 50

Winter 07 - Old woman in 4x4 knocks him off, he buys another 50 since his brother will use it when his bro is 16 and he will get a car

March 08 - Gets caught driving a car without a licence and insurance and gets a fine and 6 points (i have told him he deserved it, why should i have waited for my licence and pay so much insurance, a % of my premium goes towards idiots like him)

April 08 - Passes driving test, if he gets 1 more point he loses it according to police

So heres the thing, he has 6 points so cant afford car insurance so has decided to carry on his scootering career instead (even through he has no interest in bikes and cant even handle a geared 50cc bike). I am sure his CBT is now invalid due to 6 points and he needs to re-do it but he doesnt think so and just says how else can i get about to which i reply its your own fault.

He says cus he has passed his car test while holding a CBT he can ride a moped, but didnt his CBT become void as soon as he got the 6 points so didn't hold one at the time he went to his test.

Am i right, i am sure i am.

BTW i am a stickler for staying legal, always have done, always will do. Not saying i am perfect and stick to all the speed limits but i know when to stop. My licence is one of the most important things in the world to me and i would hate to lose it.
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Past: 06 Runner SP50 >>> 01 Varadero XL125 >>> 08 Kwak ER-6f >>> 05 CBR600rr
Present: 99 FZS600 Fazer

[spikenipple]

A CBT pass is a CBT pass. It has nothing to do with the licence/points system. It does however expire after 2 years, so he'll need to redo it sometime soon. Remind him he'll need to have L plates on the bike too.
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C50 > GN250 > XJ600 > SV650S K7 > 2001 RSV Mille R > MT-09, XR400R > 2005 Fireblade (trackbike) + 2022 MT-09 + ZXR400 race bike

[tutton]

CBT and license are both seperate.
he will have lost his license
but if his cbt is still in its 2 year pass period hes fine,
if his provisional isnt void.
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[ms51ves3]

[ms51ves3]

[tutton]

[2006 _p1]

I think my cbt is neerly up but i have done my car test does that mean i dont have to do my cbt again?

[ms51ves3]

[gmanxiii]

Nope, CBT is only valid for two years before you need to retake it regardless whether or not you've passed drivers licence or not. Think you might of got confused with drivers getting a licence before Feb 2001 not needing to do a CBT to ride a 50cc with L plates.
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I kills hondas

VFR400NC30 > ZZR600 > CBR600FX > CBR1000rr

[The Tot]

It's been 5 years since i last did my CBT and i'm sure until last year at least, CBT's were only valid for 2 years regardless of whether you have passed a car test. Just reiterating Gmanx's point. YOU NEEDED TO PASS YOUR CAR TEST BEFORE FEB 2001 for the CBT veto on 50ccs. Even then, i was still not sure if you had to display L plates or not since my dad never read the laws properly - i'd need an officer of the law to qualify that for me.
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The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
Never argue with autism

[2006 _p1]

Omg i have to do cbt again...Great

I dont see why you have to keep taking a CBT as it is compulsory basic training and if you done your car test you shouldn't have to!

[LeeR]

The DSA explain moped entitlement here: Information for moped riders.

Basically your friend is correct now he has passed his car test, whilst holding a valid CBT he is entitled to ride a moped without 'L' plates and carry a pillion, though god knows why anyone would ride two-up on a 50. The CBT he held to validate his moped entitlement will never expire, but he must keep it as proof he is entitled to ride. If he gets given a producer whilst riding the moped then he should take the CBT with him to the police station.

Now the only thing I'm unclear about is how this affects his "ability" to ride a 125, as he possesses a non-expiring CBT?
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My claim to fame: Austin Vince nicked my pen...

[gmanxiii]

[ms51ves3]

[2006 _p1]

Dont get this at all. Some of you are saying i dont need to re due my cbt some are saying i have to? I done my driving test and done my cbt back in 06.

[gmanxiii]

Apologies, it was me getting my moped & motorcycle licencing mixed up
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I kills hondas

VFR400NC30 > ZZR600 > CBR600FX > CBR1000rr

[ms51ves3]

[Key67]

[plugger147]

Yes but the dvla explain it different but not very clearly.

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/DG_10016249
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[Rovman]

If you pass a car test whilst holding a valid CBT certificate you can then ride a 50cc Moped without L-Plates and the CBT never expires, but it applies only to 50cc Mopeds (Catagory P). If You wish to ride a 125 the CBT will continue to expire 2 yearly, and L-Plates are still required etc.

If you passed your car test before February 1st 2001 you do not need to do a CBT at all if you only wish to ride a 50cc Moped (Cat P)
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Theory Test Passed 01/03/2008 || A2 Test Passed 04/04/08
Kawasaki Ninja 250r 2008

[ms51ves3]

[Serendipity]

[ms51ves3]

[2006 _p1]

[ms51ves3]