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 Posted: 02:34 - 03 Jul 2007 Post subject: Zeitgeist, The Movie *This Effects Everyone* |
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Tonight I watched this documentary, which has opened my mind completely.
Which I can comfortably say will also be amongst the most important things you will EVER witness.
https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&hl=en
This is a 3 part movie...
The 1st Part is mainly about religion (Christianity)
The 2nd Part is mainly about the 9/11 Conspiracy
And The 3rd Part is mainly about the Federal Reserve, The central bank, the power that controls you, me and society as we know it.
Most of the issues in this Movie i was already aware of to some degree, but they way in which this movie describes/explains/re-inforces/establishes these in your mind, it will send chills down your spine, and truly change your perspective forever.
I Wont say much more about it, because I wont be able to word how relevant this documentary is to everyone.
But if you have a spare 2 hours, spend it well right here.. ____________________ Write off! Honda NSR150 RR ('01) - Sold Cagiva Mito Evolution ('00) - Sold Honda NSR125 ('01) - Current Gasgas TXT 250 ('98) - Sold Kawasaki Z750 ('10) - Write off! Yamaha FZ1 ('09) - Current Ducati Streetfighter 848 ('14) |
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OMG! (or not as it may seem!)
I can never watch a film without fidgeting, dozing off, getting a drink etc, but I have sat and watched that for 2 hours from start to finish.
Although I've heard much of it before, it's the first time I've seen how everything all fits together.
Well worth a watch  |
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Loose Change is also available on video.google.com
Theres no doubt in my mind that 9/11 was done by America themselves.
Its what The Ziegiest said about Vietnam, Iraq, War and money it all just makes too much sense.
For instance, why did America Set these Laws/Restrictions/Boundaries up During the vietnam war, and release the details of them to the world.  ____________________ Write off! Honda NSR150 RR ('01) - Sold Cagiva Mito Evolution ('00) - Sold Honda NSR125 ('01) - Current Gasgas TXT 250 ('98) - Sold Kawasaki Z750 ('10) - Write off! Yamaha FZ1 ('09) - Current Ducati Streetfighter 848 ('14) |
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| FIRE_NSR wrote: | No no, since you have invited yourself into this thread.
Why dont you stay and back up your argument instead of being so patronising.
If you can explain the Plane and the Pentagon and how the WTC collapased, I will dis-regard the 9/11 conspiracy completely.
If you so sure of yourself. this wont be a problem.
After all, i want to believe that this isnt true, im not a crazy person. I dont have a vendetta against the world. I want to belive there is justice in the world where it NEEDS to be. |
For crying out loud. The facts of 9/11 are easily available, and we've been through this conspiracy crap time and time again. I'm not trawling the net for your benefit. You believe what you want to believe.
There was a programme on tv a while back, concerning why the twin towers collapsed. It involved the company or architect that designed/built them.
They went into very great detail, using computer graphics etc, as to why the collapse happened, and why it would not have happened to an older skyscraper. And if you have even a little knowledge of skyscraper design, you could see how true it was.
There is going to be constant conspiracy theories about 9/11 for decades, and lapped up by the gullible.
Virtually every catastrophic event, has had a conspiracy theory. The net is very useful, but it also has a lot to answer for. |
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I would trust Popular Mechanics before I'd trust a group of kids with a video camera and over-active imaginations.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=2
and there are more sites out there I have come across with even more compelling evidence to debunk these conspiracy myths.
I just can't be bothered pandering to naive sensationalist conspiracy believing pillocks who will take on someone's opinion as fact until prioven otherwise, withouit questioning that opinion first.
interestingly enough, that's also the first step taken by most people when they get taken in by a cult.. they believe what they are told without questioning it because it 'makes sense' and then require proof to the contrary, rather than questioning what they were told in the first place.
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| feef wrote: | I would trust Popular Mechanics before I'd trust a group of kids with a video camera and over-active imaginations.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=2
and there are more sites out there I have come across with even more compelling evidence to debunk these conspiracy myths.
I just can't be bothered pandering to naive sensationalist conspiracy believing pillocks who will take on someone's opinion as fact until prioven otherwise, withouit questioning that opinion first.
interestingly enough, that's also the first step taken by most people when they get taken in by a cult.. they believe what they are told without questioning it because it 'makes sense' and then require proof to the contrary, rather than questioning what they were told in the first place.
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Feef, that's one of the sites I looked at some time back, but couldn't be arsed to find it. Cheers.  |
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| SilvaRizla wrote: | I completely accept what you're saying and I also agree to some extent, I can't agree fully as I haven't whitnessed the extent of "selectiveness" which you describe.
However, quotes from 3rd parties + facts (especially the quote on missiles hitting the pentagon from some senator, and no aircraft debris on the lawn) is enough for me to acknowledge the possibility of it being an inside job and even sway me towards beleiving that is probably what happened |
read the link I posted:
| Quote: | CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"
FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay? |
https://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-flight77-lg.jpg
Looks like bits of planes to me.
now tell me you believe the selective quoting of a failed film student over the experience and testimony of a qualified and respected engineer?
Give him a call,
001202 833 8622 Thats the number for KCE Structural Engineering.
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oh.. and Loose Change didn't include the Pentagon's own CCTV footage, nor the security camera footage from other, non-government buildings around the area showing the plane crashing into the building.
Well.. understandable.. no point in bringing simple things like facts into their film now, is there?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 182 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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