Jimmy Fireblades How to Pull Wheelies and Knee Down

[lllN30lll]

downloaded, re encoded, and uploaded to google video so you can watch it right now.

enjoy

https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6817159595140534731&hl=en
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[McGee]

I'm going to try the rear brake loading.

I always just tug the bars.
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Its pronounced Jixxer!

[Jenks]

cheessssseeeee
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[Ghost]

Is anyone else a bit sceptical on his knee down theory? Seems to me he's concentrating too much on teaching you to get your knee on the road and not worrying about actually cornering. The bike's pretty upright when he does it.
I can see how his body position lowers the knee a lot as well but it looks way too far forward to me

[McGee]

[nick606]

most in depth video ive seen. Thanks for uploading it.

only problem i see with using the back brake like what happens when you want to do wheelies starting from faster than a standstill.

[McGee]

[Whosthedaddy]

I have to admit (never really having tried to wheelie the big bikes) that the explanation of his 1-2-3 method is long winded and quite confusing.

The body position of the KD was much better and very simple.
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[loply]

Incidentally, as my understanding goes, that knee down body position is NOT optimal for riding fast, it's merely for getting knee down as easily as possible.

For actually riding fast, from what I've heard and read, you would not have your crotch up against the fuel tank like that, and getting your body/head off the bike is as important as your leg, which he neglects to do.

Fair play if you just want to do circles in an airfield, but don't mix it up with track riding!
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[Whosthedaddy]

[Stiffler]

Ok I'll hold my hand up and say I've never got my knee down, but I'm almost positive that the position he describes is totally and utterly wrong. It's more of a trick to getting your knee down that a suitable technique.

You only have to watch any motorbike racing to see that the position he describes is very different from what a pro would use (They're not trying to get their knee down they're trying to ride round the corner in the fastest and most stable manor).

In fact the whole thing smacked of a cheaply produced quick fix as opposed to a legitimately educational instructional video. Not saying you couldn't use ideas on there as a basis to achieve the objectives, but none of them look particularly slick in the video so as someone trying to mimic it you'll just end up looking a bit of a wannabe noob.
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[southeastpete]

what a cheeeazy video. looks like one of those stupid education vids we used to be forced to watch at school. and does anyone else think he talks a bit like dale winton?

[JakeyR]

"the ideal speed for kneedown is 20 - 30mph"

Ahah, bollocks.
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[freestyler_onli]

He looks like Col. Tom Ryan from The Unit......

[southeastpete]

agreed. sounds gayer though

[Scouse]

Why don't the wheelie addicts of BCF write their own little step by step guides in a thread somewhere created by one of them and see how they compare to each other for simplicity to beginners.

[Scouse]

[binge]

[Clone]

tell us how then Or is it just something you learn yourself?

Not that im going to do it yet been riding less than a month...

[binge]

If you have to hang off the bike like he is saying, Then you clearly aren't using the Knee down maneuver as an aid for cornering, You are doing it purely to wave your willy around at bike meets with scratched up sliders.

In fairness, everyone has to start somewhere, and I guess hanging off like a deranged monkey to get your knee down is one way of getting a feel of what to expect.

What he says about it being like a third wheel is quite true, But at 20mph its bollocks.

I wont knee down at anything less than about 45/50mph now, No need for it really. The only time I do it on a roundabout is if its got a shell grip surface. The abrasive surface bobbles the tyres up on the edges. Makes you look fast when you park up at bike meets.

[Pie-Roe]

That guide was less than helpful... I nearly flipped my fzr trying wheelies with clutch+back brake and going from 2 to 5k... (it's already in bits so I thought I'd have a little practice)

I learned how to kneedown on my bandit, did it once then had a break off the bike for about a month (not long but I was doing 50
miles a day for fun) and then I couldn't again.

Went to pfizers with squiffy couple weeks ago, just followed him, it's bloody easy. I hang off on corners not obscenely but to feel comfortable, and it was just a case of following him round the roundabout and trying to match his body position and then hey presto I hear scrapage.

The willy waving aspect of it is pretty good to be fair. There was a guy there with an 06 cbr 600 or 1000, clean knee sliders, matching leathers+lid, whole real deal been riding a couple years... Going round it at 20mph hanging off with the right body position, but still about 5 inches off the ground, and then there was me with my '90 fzr600 and ebay leathers been riding 6 months and only got the bike 2 days previous just going for it and managing it. It's a good feeling.

I think it's more of a confidence thing. I'm going to practice on my recent MZ which I purchased. I think the lightness and the small tyre profiles should increase my confidence at cornering, and help me out. I personally have no problem hanging off/trying to wheelie/trying to stoppie, doing whatever. I just prefer it if theres someone there who actually knows what they are doing first...

It's all very well watching a video on t'net about something. But it's like watching these tv cooking programmes, it's not actually going to be as good as seeing it in front of you.

Pyro
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[binge]

I agree with pyrolife.
I was out on the CBR tonight, And I tried to clutch+brake etc.

I think, Unless your on the bike hes riding in the video, It wont work.

For starters, I need to hit 10k rpm + Before my front wheel will even ATTEMPT to lift.

[Clone]

So thats where i have been going wrong. Tried all day yesterday on the Nsr clutch break 5k revs but not once did i wheelie