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PostPosted: 21:12 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Why I hate rent (Rant) Reply with quote

nbk wrote:
What is rent?

Before I explain that, a little history lesson about what the origins of the word 'rent' is.

It is the modern day version of the homage surfs payed to their Lords back in the good ol' days of the middle ages for the privilege of being allowed a squalid hut to live in on the Lords land.

It's no accident that the person that you pay for the honor of living on their land is nowadays known as a "Land Lord". After all, only Lords could own land, peasants simply being part of the Lords property, and property can't own property itself. Wink

By owning land, the Lord owned everything on it...the trees, the water, and the peasants. The peasants didn't have any say in this matter, because to go somewhere else was to become the property of some other Lord, since ANYTHING on the Lords land was his, whether he wanted it there or not.

Fast forward through the Renaissance to the modern day. The concept of someone 'owning' another person is considered barbaric and cruel, being labeled slavery.

But when the average American pays 40% of their income, earned by trading time from their life for money, and then handing over the results of that exchange to a Land Lord, doesn't it seem more like the kind of tax that the peasants had to fork over to their master, a Lord?

Certainly does to me.

In what other context of modern society would it be considered fair to take 40% of someones life effort from them? Not once, not twice, but every month for their entire adult life, right up until they're dropped into the grave?

I can't think of anything.

And, should someone dare to have the audacity to NOT pay rent? Well...we can't have that kind of rebellious behavior to go unpunished, now can we? Otherwise, we'd be up to necks in freeloading peasants, now wouldn't we?

This is the real reason for the continued persistence of the usurious taxation known as 'rent'.

It's not because the Land Lord is providing such an incredibly valuable service that he gets to charge what he does.

No.

It's because the higher powers, those who have inherited the mantle of noblesse oblige from the feudal Lords, feel the need to keep the masses oppressed (which is a good thing, actually) through economic slavery, lest they be able to rise up (financially) and become [sub]gasp![/sub] the equals of their former Masters.

This is the real origin of rent...economic slavery.

Back in the ye ol' times, the Lords were parasites that bleed the host of their subjects bodies nearly dry, not only to fatten themselves up, but also to keep their subjects too poor and weak to throw off the parasite.

Imagine a vampire that sucks just enough blood out of a captive victim to leave him alive, but too weak to resist. A scene from the Bram Stokers Dracula movie comes readily to mind.

Anyways...just like the vampire, the Lords knew they had to keep their victims weak (poor), otherwise they'd lose their easy meal and might actually have to make their own way, without others fattening their coffers for them.

But onerous taxation had the nasty side-effect of angering the peasants, who'd often rebel, either openly by killing their Lords, or secretly by not paying the full 'rent' and keeping the balance for themselves.

When this happened, the Lords would have two choices:

The first required killing peasants, which is akin to a vampire draining its victim dry, because a parasite can't live without a host, so killing peasants was counter-productive.

The second was to increase the 'rent' to make up for the shortfall, but this was a vicious cycle, because increasing the 'rent' increased the rebellious behavior of refusing to pay 'rent'.

'Course, back then, it wasn't called 'rent', it was called 'tax'.

Eventually the Lords wised up and came up with a new scam to suck their prey to feebleness that didn't provoke the rebellious behavior.

A new word, 'Rent', was used to replace the more accurate word 'Tax', and, rather than slaving away in the fields to pay a tax to your Liege Lord, you now slaved away in the fields to pay 'rent' to your land Lord.

The thing that confuses most people as to the real nature of the arrangement is the intermediate stage of a Boss.

See, the Boss, regardless of who you work for or what you do, is the enforcer of the Lords will.

You work for the Lords, but give your life-force to a Boss in exchange for worthless colored paper tokens. You then give these tokens to your Lord as proof of your allegiance and loyalty to his continued prosperity.

He knows the tokens are actually more worthless than toilet paper, since you can't even comfortably wipe your ass with them, but he knows he can trade the toilet paper to other Lords for actually useful commodities due to a mutually agreed upon fiction known as 'Money'.

And now, because of this very simple arrangement, the Lords are no longer bothered by pesky peasant rebellions. Why? Because the peasants now believe that they are free to actually choose their own destinies, be the captains of the ship of their lives, and all that good stuff.

But it doesn't matter where they go because the Lords are everywhere. Anywhere the peasant goes, he pays homage to a Lord, whether he knows it or not, because the Lords know full well that for every peasant that leaves, another will replace him.

Oh, and for you fools who think that, because you are living in a house, you are somehow better than the rest of your fellow peasants...you're the most deluded of all because you've thought the most unbelievable lie imaginable...that you are somehow a Lords equal! Rolling Eyes

In fact, you're the most loyal of all peasants because you've signed away 20 to 30 years of your life away, in advance, to a Lord, locking yourself in to a 'Mortgage', which is another one of the Lords euphemisms for 'Indentured Servitude'.

Back in the ol' days, after the Renaissance, but before the 20th century, you'd agree to so many years as a Lords servant, in exchange for some trifling reward.

Well, the Lords haven't forgotten this useful trick.

Now they get peasants to agree to paying half their life to them in exchange for their 'freedom' from rent.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

Fools! Razz

It's just a different word for the same thing...SLAVERY.

By making the chains of gold, rather than iron, the Lords have discovered that the slaves no longer rebel. In fact, the slaves become eager for the chains to be put on them.

Let us say that you work 30 years, and get the 'deed' to 'your' house. Now what happens? You think you're going to become a Lord yourself by requiring rent from others that you deign to let stay on 'your' property.

A fools dream.

You're going to be spending the rest of your life paying taxes on the value of that property to yet more powerful Lords, known as county/state/federal government.

Sell it? Pay tax.

Improve it? Pay more tax.

Die? Your heirs pay yet more tax.

No matter what, if you pay anything for where you are living, you're a peasant.

Emperors of old lived in palaces, and kings in castles.

Genghis Khan lived in a yurt, a tent made of wood and skins, but he didn't pay anyone a damn thing for the privilege, did he?

True Lords don't pay anyone a damn thing for living anywhere. Quite the opposite.

So, like any true Lord, I'm not paying anyone a damn thing for where I live anymore. In fact, I haven't been paying homage to anyone for 8 months now.

How?

"NBK must be scamming someone."

Nope.

"Ah, then he's mooching off of some bitch."

Nigger, please.

"NBK must be living under a bridge then, because no one lives rent-free."

To the contrary!

See, in most places in the civilized world, there are more places to live than people to occupy them, except most people are sheep, not wolves.

Sheep insist on the comfort of a warm pen with soft hay and fresh water.

Sheeple insist on the comforts of running water, electricity for light, and gas for warmth.

But I'm a wolf.

And, as a wolf, I don't need these things to survive but, in fact, thrive in their absence.

Wolves laugh at the cutting knife of a winter wind, sleep on the bare earth, and drink from stagnant pools.

Harmless animals have pens, but predators have lairs.

Like the Spartans of old, the lack of material comforts has hardened me.

For the last eight months, I've been living in a house that just so happens to be deserted, and has been for years.

No water, no electricity, no heating or air conditioning.

Sub-freezing cold, sweltering heat, vermin and leaking roofs mean nothing to me.

I sleep on the floor.

I walk through pitch black rooms at night, the noise of rats running in the attic and the chirping of crickets outside the only sound to be heard.

I use a propane burner in the fireplace for cooking, only having used a one pound cylinder in the last four months, eating most of my food cold from cans.

I walk miles almost everyday, with a 20 pound pack on my back, up and down hilly roads in all weather and temperatures, rather than riding the bus.

Yet, despite these supposed hardships, I remain respectful of myself. Derelicts that allow themselves to fall apart into stinky, unkempt, and filthy shambles are pathetic untermensch.

Despite having none of the supposed basics of civilization, I remain clean and presentable.

I bath every day with water I walk in on my back.

I piss in bottles, and shit in plastic bags, that I carry out on my back.

I wash my few clothes in a laundromat every week.

This is what a wolf can live like.

"That's too difficult for me. I couldn't live like that."

FUCK YOU!

Saravok wrote:
Obstacles are not the scourge of the living, as some people think; rather, they exist to crush the weak until they are reduced to shit, and to strengthen the strong until they become as cold and as hard as steel.


Cold forged steel is the hardest steel there is.

(NOT referring to Saravok[sub]v[/sub])

This is why you'll be someone else's slave, FOREVER, because you're weak shit that can't overcome even a simple obstacle like rent slavery, thus you are crushed under the heel of a Lords rent boot.

It was hard at first, giving up all the comforts of the warm pen, but wolves don't thrive in captivity, no matter how comfortable the cage.

Having broken free of the pen, and created a lair, I've thrived since then.

Despite my supposedly 'deprived' living conditions, I'm now quite comfortable in my spartan living conditions.

I'm certainly not thrown back to the dark ages, as I've composed this screed on a laptop in my lair, backing it up to a PGPdisk volume on an external firewire drive. The battery is charged up at work, one of the very few useful things that the place provides.

The theft or destruction of anything in my lair (except my data, hence the external drive I take with me everywhere) is of no concern to me, as everything in my lair is already ashes in my mind and easily replaced.

No longer do I have to give a shit about my neighbors.

No anxiety over some fruitcake landlord snooping through my belongings.

I can just imagine some lames here and elsewhere chuckling to themselves, thinking "Haha! NBK is homeless!"

Lames, all of them.

See, homeless people are exactly that, home LESS, as in without a home. I've got a home, it's just not mine.

RTPB "Anything free must be exploited".

Very Happy

This could technically be called "Squatting", but that's misapplied in my case, because that's what homeless people do to get off the streets. I've never been on the streets. I went straight from paying rent (to a race-traitor faggot) to lair'ing.

Yes, lair'ing. That's a more proper term for what I'm doing.

Lair'ing is not the act of desperation by losers who can't keep their jobs, sanity, or control over a substance abuse problem, but rather the conscious choice of someone who could otherwise continue paying rent, but has decided to get off the rat-wheel of rent slavery and live free.

As an example of one of the many advantages I enjoy, compared to the sheeple peasants:

Some assholes, known as "customers", gave me a hassle at work, so I gave them pain in return.

Now they've tried several times to find where I live, presumably to exact some P.E.T.T.Y. revenge by stealing my ashes or trashing my lair.

The RTPB of "Check your Six'", being innate to me, alerted me to their amateurish attempts long before we were anywhere near my lair, giving me plenty of time to run a cleaning routine.

As Mega said when I told him about this:

"What are they going to do? Steal things you don't care about? Slash the tires of a car you don't own? Or thrash a house that isn't yours?"

Exactly. Razz

Another advantage is that anyone who wants to find me by searching for my name or other identifying information for utilities, credit checks for rentals, etc, will come up with a big fat zero on that, as I've none of those things.

They could find me through my job, but that'll soon be a dead end too.

Internet too, as the laptop means war-driving, and using the sheeples' bandwidth as my own, and leaving the pigs with a dead-end on that aspect.

Friends and family have long since been dead ends.

Same for DMV, insurance, medical records, and all the other crap that people leave little breadcrumbs in that lead right up to their doors.

This is one of the worst crimes a person can be guilty of nowadays...being invisible and untraceable to ZOG and their lackeys.

Is it any surprise that everything is slowly being strangled with technology to make every move and purchase traceable by government goons? That banks report every cent to the tax man, licenses to drive are controlled by taking your picture and fingerprints (DNA soon), etc, etc, etc?

Not in the least.

But, as long as you're trading your life away in an endless pursuit of trivial possessions that really do nothing, and paying a Lord a majority of your life, then ZOG is going to leave you alone. Why shouldn't they? They know that you're contentedly grazing in the pen of consumerism, fat and happy, as any good sheep is, thus nullified as any kind of threat to them.

Wolves on the other hand, can't be penned, only caged, and that only at the cost of eternal vigilance as they are prone to escaping at a moments laxity.

Most people are owned by their possessions, not the other way around, despite what they may like to think.

Wolves only have tools, not possessions, because tools are useful, possessions useless.

Yet, in an ironic twist, I've got more things now than I did before I started lair'ing.

Why?

Because, in my case, I gained an instant 80% increase in my income. The 40% I no longer pay in rent, plus a 40% increase in my pay (more hours, compared to previously) after my nominal 'boss' was informed of my 'plight' of 'homelessness', and that the local leftist liberal rags might be interested in a story about a working stiff who was forced *boo hoo* into 'destitution' by an uncaring and greedy corporation. Wink

Now I've got all kinds of tools I couldn't afford before, like the digital camcorder, laptop, etc. And I've still got several $K more in my pipe safe, with thousands more $ to come. Very Happy

If I was someone other than NBK, than it'd be easy to blow the largess on stupid shit, like some of my co-workers who make more than $10/hour, compared to my minimum wage, but who spend it all on 'partying' and are broke all the time. Rolling Eyes

Kind of reminds me of the story of "The Ant and the Grasshopper." I even call one of them grasshopper to her face, though I know the meaning is lost on her.

My philosophy is that if it's not going to make me money, then I'm not spending money on it, food and the DVD being exceptions of course.

So I am the master of the tools I control, who's sole purpose is to strengthen me, not weaken me.

So throw off the shackles of rent slavery! Join me in running free through the shadows of the urban forest, as a wolf in search of fat sheep to feed upon, rather than being one of the bleating sheep waiting in terror of the wolf that feasts upon its flesh.

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PostPosted: 21:56 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read a bit and got bored, from what I can tell so far it was saying that it's unfair that people should pay for a service such as a home.

Way I see it is unless you can afford to pay a mortgage renting is a good stop gap, if you don't pay rent you don't have a home simple as.

I'm honestly not sure what else is in there as I don't see the point in reading it Smile
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
I read a bit and got bored, from what I can tell so far it was saying that it's unfair that people should pay for a service such as a home.

Way I see it is unless you can afford to pay a mortgage renting is a good stop gap, if you don't pay rent you don't have a home simple as.

I'm honestly not sure what else is in there as I don't see the point in reading it Smile


As he says a mortage is just signing 20-30 years of your life away in advance. Wink


It's interesting to read how someone can live like he does. A free man, you might say he has a 'lower quality of life' because he doesn't have the luxuries that everyone takes for granted but he is happy regardless. Just shows you that you don't need everything you think you do to live a full and successful life.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
I read a bit and got bored


Thumbs Up what he said.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmahon wrote:
ncrn wrote:
I read a bit and got bored


Thumbs Up what he said.


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PostPosted: 23:13 - 25 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:17 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
As he says a mortage is just signing 20-30 years of your life away in advance. Wink


It's interesting to read how someone can live like he does. A free man, you might say he has a 'lower quality of life' because he doesn't have the luxuries that everyone takes for granted but he is happy regardless. Just shows you that you don't need everything you think you do to live a full and successful life.


To be honest I'm quite materialistic, why? Because stuff is awsome, I love stuff and I want more stuff. As a person I'm happy because I got great friends and a great family, but there is more to life than just that, if I can be happier why not? If I have to work a lot for a home to raise a family in, I reckon that's worth it. I'd rather be able to create a secure future for my children (hypothetical at this stage) rather than.. Still haven't read the article but I assume he's some kinda squatter? Or lives in a tent or something?

I'd happily get a mortgage one day, I mean hell I'm already in around 7k's worth of debt and I'm only 19, it's gonna double by the end of next year, and then go up again in the third year, uni's awsome like that Very Happy.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy solution to this problem of renting and mortgages. Live at home and save up your money Thumbs Up Don't buy any luxuries, live a shit life and at home until you're 25 and can afford a studio flat and then move into that. While you are living in your flat you can save up the money you would have spent on a mortgage so you can move into a bigger house.

Mortgages and rent = BAD! Mr. Green
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ms51ves3 wrote:
Easy solution to this problem of renting and mortgages. Live at home and save up your money Thumbs Up Don't buy any luxuries, live a shit life and at home until you're 25 and can afford a studio flat and then move into that. While you are living in your flat you can save up the money you would have spent on a mortgage so you can move into a bigger house.

Mortgages and rent = BAD! Mr. Green


Wrong , what needs to happen is that rents need to be realistic , and less than 25% of a persons net income this is happening with the house price crash, which would make life so much better as people would be able to spend more on leisure than slaving away for somebody else.

Oh and as a kick in the teeth inflation is running at about 20-30% so those deposits you are saving up drop in value by 30% year on year at worst, inflation is ramping higher and higher ,

There is also the problem that people don't have any money left to save after BASIC living expenses as living at home option isn't always an option, I didn't have this option from when I was 19 till when I was 26 and had to live out, there was a survey 5 million people had no reserves and if they lost their job they would be in a world of trouble.

I've been there done that where most of your income goes on rent/income tax/council tax/food/bills you get left with £9 a week to have fun with (not inc motoring costs either). Which is why the dole is so attractive to many people, totted up its worth about £300 in benefits in kind a week (rent/bills/council tax) and dolees are left with £52 or is it £58 JSA left over for play money.

have a look at this

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/06/25/quarter-of-liverpool-on-benefits-100252-21148149/
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:
Easy solution to this problem of renting and mortgages. Live at home and save up your money Thumbs Up Don't buy any luxuries, live a shit life and at home until you're 25 and can afford a studio flat and then move into that. While you are living in your flat you can save up the money you would have spent on a mortgage so you can move into a bigger house.

Mortgages and rent = BAD! Mr. Green


Wrong , what needs to happen is that rents need to be realistic , and less than 25% of a persons net income this is happening with the house price crash, which would make life so much better as people would be able to spend more on leisure than slaving away for somebody else.


Rent would never come down though because people who rent properties out know they can get high amounts of money from it. At the end if the day it is a business and business men and women have 1 goal and that is to make as much money as possible.

My solution would still work (for me anyway), if my mum and dad chucked me out before I could get the money together for a house I would have to get a mortgage out and I really want to avoid anything like that. I hate spending money especially when it's just thrown away and I get nothing back from it.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:00 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Re: Why I hate rent (Rant) Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
nbk wrote:
...lots of waffle....

It's also written by an American judging by the acronyms and phrases used.

So not really the same as over here, given we have the likes of the NHS and they need medical insurance etc.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rent would never come down though because people who rent properties out know they can get high amounts of money from it. At the end if the day it is a business and business men and women have 1 goal and that is to make as much money as possible.

My solution would still work (for me anyway), if my mum and dad chucked me out before I could get the money together for a house I would have to get a mortgage out and I really want to avoid anything like that. I hate spending money especially when it's just thrown away and I get nothing back from it.


Wrong again , rents are falling, there has never been a housing shortage, back in the 90s I used to play landlords off each other £23 a week for a shared house, those were the days.

3 important things:

Market

Housing is almost perfect competition, perfect competition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition

ie low barriers to entry ,
low barriers to exit

This means that one supplier cannot put prices significantly above market rate, as people will go elsewhere, ie petrol stations opposite each other, like in Bolton its the same product which one do you go to when one is cheaper?. He can try but then tenancy agreements often prevent this and people can and do move away.

This is different to say Oil , Opec holds much of the supply and we need it so they can charge us whatever they want, but keep it from going to the moon so we do not develop alternatives.

Yield

Yield is low, 5% is the base risk rate ie stick it in a bank zero risk thats IF nothing needs to be repaired not forgeting ground rent , gas checks, deposit insurance , insurance repairs agency fees.

Of all my clients only ONE couple make money about 18K out of 13 properties, you look back and they made nothing for years paying off the mortgages. Though she cheated and used incapacity benefit to pay for it.

Supply

There is mass over supply,

Arrow Polish workers are going home

Arrow the UK economy is tanking = more repo = more supply

Arrow Babyboomers from the 60/70s are about to retire,

Arrow People to cover their increasing mortgage costs try rent it out instead which causes more supply

Arrow the greater the supply the more it is a buyers/renters market.
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Wrong again , rents are falling


Last thing I read said that rents were rising.

Demand for the purchase of housing is falling, leading to the purchase price falling too. This equates to more people looking to rent which, in turn, pushes the demand and, therefore, price up.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 26 Jun 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver wrote:

Last thing I read said that rents were rising.

Demand for the purchase of housing is falling, leading to the purchase price falling too. This equates to more people looking to rent which, in turn, pushes the demand and, therefore, price up.


https://www.arla.co.uk/news/100608.htm


Marginal falls in rental returns for houses and flats are reported in the latest quarterly survey of ARLA’s member letting agents published today, June 9. This, ARLA believes, is due to the number of new developments coming on-stream. The Association also points out that this demolishes the myth that rent levels are soaring.


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Oh not that old chestnut again,

Think about the logic of this , people who cannot afford to buy , what are they currently doing? ..... they are renting, if they are renting then they already form part of the satisfied demand.

If they are already part of the current demand, where is this extra demand going to come from to push up rents, a person who does not buy != extra person looking to rent as that person is already renting.

Thus all things being equal means demand is flat, things aren't equal though.

Arrow migrant workers are leaving due to £ tanking and high cost of UK living this decreases demand & increases supply

Arrow mid 20s folks are actually moving back to their parents homes this decreases demand & increases supply

Arrow people who can't afford their silly lie to buy mortgages have to rent out this increases supply


Therefore we have falling demand AND increasing supply, which means , rent falls, you may well see adverts of £800pm now , but bet your top dollar on it they will fall as the ends of cheap 2 year deals come to an end , such people are reset onto MUCH higher morgage rates, and the market for cheap resets have all but vanished, HSBC have a shocker of a mortgage 8K arrangement fee.

As with basic economics what should we do about the factory that is losing 2K a week? , with fixed costs of 10K a week?, shutting it down means a loss of 10K a week.

You don't see many VCRs these days do you? , zilch demand , yet massive over supply, (there is reputed to be a mountain outside Hangzhou of VCRs , much as there is a mountain of scooters).
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