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 Posted: 19:23 - 14 Jun 2008 Post subject: WEIRD BULBS |
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hi all,
looking to replace the headlight bulbs in my chinky 4t,
as they are very dull.
but never seen these type before,
marked with chinese writing (very helpful) & 18w/18w, no wonder there not so bright.
looking to replace with something alomg the lines of 35/35w, if the bike will take it!
these bulbs are about 6cm long,
with 2 prongs to hold them in.
look similar to H4 bulbs but without the large base.
any ideas on where i could get replacements or adapt to take normal type h4 or h7 bulbs?
cheers,
GAZ
EDIT :just had a look at a H4 bulb i had spare,
& it fits in space.
so if i remove bulb holder i am left with 3 bare wires which, in theory, all i need to do is connect to the H4 bulb & im pretty much sorted.
so, on a H4 bulb, which of the 3 prongs do what?
ie low beam,high beam etc.
any advice welcome.
i reckon i could bodge a conversion here! as the size of the old bulb & holder is approx same size as a H4 bulb,
& its easier to replace H4's than these chinese ones,
& who knows they might be brighter! (seing as there almost double the wattage, heres hoping i dont fry the wiring/regulator! lol)
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Cut off the connector to the bulb and solder in a normal one? , ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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you can buy h4 sockets off ebay for around 3 pounds should.nt be to hard to fit a 35/55 watt lamp in posesion and then its one common wire and a low and high beam wire. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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Is it a simple round headlight?
If so, you might be as well just getting a CG125 lens insert from a breakers, then it'll take standard bulbs and the reflector will be set up for them.
A brand new, entire headlight for a CG costs under £30 so a second hand insert ought to be cheap as chips. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stirlinggaz |
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stinkwheel wrote: | Is it a simple round headlight?
If so, you might be as well just getting a CG125 lens insert from a breakers, then it'll take standard bulbs and the reflector will be set up for them.
A brand new, entire headlight for a CG costs under £30 so a second hand insert ought to be cheap as chips. |
Hi,
no, its a twin headlight, curved type.
holes for bulbs can take a H4 no problem though, without any modification,just wiring.
& as i happen to have a couple of H4 bulbs lying around,
that was why i was asking about wiring/soldering.
surely 18w headlights arent legal?
cheers,
GAZ |
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stirlinggaz wrote: |
Hi,
no, its a twin headlight, curved type.
holes for bulbs can take a H4 no problem though, without any modification,just wiring.
& as i happen to have a couple of H4 bulbs lying around,
that was why i was asking about wiring/soldering.
surely 18w headlights arent legal?
cheers,
GAZ |
I should mention that doubling the wattage of the bulb you use is liable to overload and melt wiring. Check the wires are meaty enough to do the job before you stick a vastly bigger bulb in. Knowing the Chinese build ethos, they will probably have used the bare minimum spec wire they can get away with.
I should also mention that if your bike has a direct lighting system (if the lights only work with the engine running) then upping the wattage will most likely make the lights dimmer, not brighter ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel wrote: | stirlinggaz wrote: |
Hi,
no, its a twin headlight, curved type.
holes for bulbs can take a H4 no problem though, without any modification,just wiring.
& as i happen to have a couple of H4 bulbs lying around,
that was why i was asking about wiring/soldering.
surely 18w headlights arent legal?
cheers,
GAZ |
I should mention that doubling the wattage of the bulb you use is liable to overload and melt wiring. Check the wires are meaty enough to do the job before you stick a vastly bigger bulb in. Knowing the Chinese build ethos, they will probably have used the bare minimum spec wire they can get away with.
I should also mention that if your bike has a direct lighting system (if the lights only work with the engine running) then upping the wattage will most likely make the lights dimmer, not brighter |
hi,
lights work, even when engines not running.
upon further inspection,
wiring looks very thin,
so i would just rip it out & use some better stuff,
more worried about damaging regulator/coil or anything else serious!
will have a look in halfrauds, to see if the bulb mentioned earlier is the correct fitting, if it is, 35w would be a bit better than 18w, surely?.
cheers,
GAZ |
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Another vote for the BA20D bulb.
Did you ever change a bulb in the NSR you had? Looks exactly like that, just less blurry.  ____________________ My mum smells your fingers |
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Minty wrote: | Another vote for the BA20D bulb.
Did you ever change a bulb in the NSR you had? Looks exactly like that, just less blurry.  |
hi,
nope, never had to change a bulb in the NS125,didnt have it that long!
thanks though, will look out for a 35W BA20D & compare,
cheers,
GAZ
edit - just had a look on-line & you guys are right (as usual),
it is a BA20D, just its the halogen type,
thats what confused me,
as its not the normal bulb shape,(shaped like a household light bulb, only smaller, lol)
didnt know they done these bosch bulbs, with the same fitting but halogen type, therefore glass/bulb part is a different shape. (longer & thinner, not the normal light bulb shape)
cheers,
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2x 18W @ 12V = 3A
2x 35W @ 12V = 5.8A
To be honest, most cable should be able to cope with that. You might want to check there are at least 14 strands. If there is a seperate lighting fuse, you might need a more powerful one.
If you are concerned about excessive power draw, replace the stop and tail light and the sidelight with LED bulbs (draw almost nothing). Or maybe even just use one 35W and one 18W. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel wrote: | 2x 18W @ 12V = 3A
2x 35W @ 12V = 5.8A
To be honest, most cable should be able to cope with that. You might want to check there are at least 14 strands. If there is a seperate lighting fuse, you might need a more powerful one.
If you are concerned about excessive power draw, replace the stop and tail light and the sidelight with LED bulbs (draw almost nothing). Or maybe even just use one 35W and one 18W. |
hi,
wiring is pretty thin,(i mean real thin, like door bell wire!)
would be surprised if it coped with that bit extra!
good idea about leds though,
will look into that, dunno what bulbs are in the back!
no seperate fuse for lights, bike only has a 10amp fuse down at the battery.
cheers,
GAZ |
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I think running two 35w bulbs could be chancing your luck a bit.
All depends on the charge rate of the alternator I suppose.
You can get a bit of a clue from the size of the battery. There will be a number in the battery code which is the amp/hour rating. Basically the charging system should be comfortable putting out up to this level of current. Beyond that and you're discharging your battery.
So. If it has an 8Ah battery, you ought to be ok. If it has a 4Ah battery you are going to cause problems. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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