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Andy9934
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Supplementary lighting (headlight not bright enough) Reply with quote

I ride a YBR 125 and the headlight is utter shit. I've replaced it with the best LED setup I can get in there (secured with blutac) but I really need something brighter and better because I am nearly blind on unlit roads at night.

I was thinking about getting something like this and mounting it onto my headlamp bracket, I'm wondering if anyone has used these?

Any thoughts welcome before I end up in a ditch!
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Supplementary lighting (headlight not bright enough) Reply with quote

Andy9934 wrote:
I ride a YBR 125 and the headlight is utter shit. I've replaced it with the best LED setup I can get in there (secured with blutac) but I really need something brighter and better because I am nearly blind on unlit roads at night.

I was thinking about getting something like this and mounting it onto my headlamp bracket, I'm wondering if anyone has used these?

Any thoughts welcome before I end up in a ditch!


Just use the main beam - it's not bright enough to offend anyone else but it just about gives enough light to be an improvement.

Tbh if you want more light - you could add a set of those CATEYE bolt on rechargeable things that the Cyclidiots use.

I found that main beam was the easiest route.

(ex rider *just* of a YBR125)
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be interested in pics of how it does on a dark and stormy night

how about one of these?
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https://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/yelijin/4ledheiseidegn/22_zpsbdaf81ce.jpg

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-20W-12V-4-LED-Day-Light-Spotlight-Van-Car-Motorcycle-Bicycles-Bike-Handlight-/361094855862?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5412ee3cb6
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, don't get this thing about the headlight being shit. I whack on mainbeam and just adjust it up a bit for country lanes with hedges either side, and down for bigger, more open roads. I have no issue with it tbh.

I ride to work at 4am by the way, mixture of large unlit A road, bit of town and a horrible, narrow, bendy, unlit country lane.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Supplementary lighting (headlight not bright enough) Reply with quote

UBFester wrote:
Andy9934 wrote:
I ride a YBR 125 and the headlight is utter shit. I've replaced it with the best LED setup I can get in there (secured with blutac) but I really need something brighter and better because I am nearly blind on unlit roads at night.

I was thinking about getting something like this and mounting it onto my headlamp bracket, I'm wondering if anyone has used these?

Any thoughts welcome before I end up in a ditch!


Just use the main beam - it's not bright enough to offend anyone else but it just about gives enough light to be an improvement.

Tbh if you want more light - you could add a set of those CATEYE bolt on rechargeable things that the Cyclidiots use.

I found that main beam was the easiest route.

(ex rider *just* of a YBR125)


Great blind everyone else on the road. Rolling Eyes It's not the brightness it is the direction of the beam that causes dazzling.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine came with a non-stock light fitting and that blew the fuse on full beam. I pretty much only use the full beam, hence why I'm looking for an alternative.

I was thinking that the CREE bicycle lights would be good (focused with the inbuilt lens and angled down) but they are 7.2 V rather than 12 V. I am hoping that the one I've suggested will be the same sort of output but 12 V
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I strongly guarantee your headlight is brighter than my CG - I only have 6V to work with Razz
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Re: Supplementary lighting (headlight not bright enough) Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Great blind everyone else on the road. Rolling Eyes It's not the brightness it is the direction of the beam that causes dazzling.


Just dip headlight when somebody is coming opposite direction? That's what I do. Pain in the arse, but I wouldn't like to be blinded by another motorist, so I'm in the habit of not doing it to other people.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh - take a YBR out at night. Marvel at the candle power - adjust the light so its aimed right, dip for other traffic if you want but in 400 miles of dark 5am starts and late finishes no one flashed. The stock light is as weak as hell and the lens quality is crap. You won't blind anyone.

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PostPosted: 17:53 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy9934 wrote:
Mine came with a non-stock light fitting and that blew the fuse on full beam. I pretty much only use the full beam, hence why I'm looking for an alternative.

... a stock light fitting?
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock light fitting or install something capable of holding an Osram Nightbreaker.

Light problems, gone.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy9934 wrote:
Mine came with a non-stock light fitting and that blew the fuse on full beam. I pretty much only use the full beam, hence why I'm looking for an alternative.

I was thinking that the CREE bicycle lights would be good (focused with the inbuilt lens and angled down) but they are 7.2 V rather than 12 V. I am hoping that the one I've suggested will be the same sort of output but 12 V


You'd just charge them before you go and maybe carry a spare charged battery for them.

The thing i added to mine, purely to make it stand out a little more was a pair of KNOG thumb USB lights - one on each mirror stem.

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Knog-Blinder-1-Twinpack-1-Led-Light-Set_59574.htm

However that adds nothing to the abysmal light output of the main light unit.

Only easy way that i could see was adding something as shown in the post above and skipping wiring it into the bikes electrics altogether.

The other thing to check is that your visor is good and clean.
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh, I remember riding the YBR late at night in near pitch black on NSL and it used to genuinely shit me right up. In fact on the night my daughter was born I nearly binned it coming home at 2am to get fresh clothes for the wife in hospital because it was raining and I just couldn't see.

It was one of the reasons for pushing me to sort out my license, to get proper headlights on a big bike. Now I have the Viffer and the lights are better than our fucking car!

On reflection none of that shit helps you out so I'll leave it by saying, either bolt on some chinky LEDs or pass your test because a YBR ain't safe at night.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda Cub. I don't see anything at night.. but that's alright, if it hits something, its slow enough to bail from..
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My MT5, nice powerful 6V 25W bulb. My TTR a nice powerful 12V 35W bulb. Rolling Eyes The TTRs headlight doesn't even project a beam on the floor, it is literally for being seen by, not seeing by.

Don't stop me though. I did however just get a BA20D 45/40W bulb in there instead, carrying a spare fuse just in case it blows anything though, seems to be much, much better. It's this time of year that makes me miss my Vara's headlight. I tried to take a picture of my view of the road, it just came out black with a bit of white mudguard at the bottom of the picture. Laughing

One thing I did do before, was adjust my headlight down, so I don't dazzle anyone, then ride around on high-beam at night never switching to low-beam. I then put the light on the MOT testing bay at work and adjusted it to the correct level, those of you that can't do so, don't do it, chances are it will be too high still. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
Ugh, I remember riding the YBR late at night in near pitch black on NSL and it used to genuinely shit me right up. In fact on the night my daughter was born I nearly binned it coming home at 2am to get fresh clothes for the wife in hospital because it was raining and I just couldn't see.

It was one of the reasons for pushing me to sort out my license, to get proper headlights on a big bike. Now I have the Viffer and the lights are better than our fucking car!

On reflection none of that shit helps you out so I'll leave it by saying, either bolt on some chinky LEDs or pass your test because a YBR ain't safe at night.


Same on my varadero 125, the headlight ain't great especially on completely unlit roads when some fucker with super bright xenons is burning my corneas out and I can't see anything on my side of the road.

I was on a Ducati Monster 821 at the weekend and in broad daylight I remember seeing the headlight reflecting off road signs.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 17 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blu-tac. Blu- fucking-tac.

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PostPosted: 13:53 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikertomm wrote:
Blu-tac. Blu- fucking-tac.

Tell Paddy not to go near your bike again. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 19:36 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

UBFester wrote:
Just use the main beam - it's not bright enough to offend anyone else but it just about gives enough light to be an improvement.

The stock light is as weak as hell and the lens quality is crap. You won't blind anyone.


^^^^ This. And get good replacement bulb, try this one big difference compared to stock one:

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/motorcycling/motorcycle-parts/halfords-bike-it-motorcycle-bulb-hmb417-12v-35-35w
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 20 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep cos the stock bulb is 35W dipped and 35W main. Even at 45/45 it's pitiful, just less so.

If you manage to blind anyone with that and the useless reflector behind it, they were probably sat on your front mudguard with nightvision goggles on looking directly into the light.
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PostPosted: 05:24 - 22 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

UBFester wrote:
Yep cos the stock bulb is 35W dipped and 35W main. Even at 45/45 it's pitiful, just less so.

If you manage to blind anyone with that and the useless reflector behind it,.

So the stupid dazzling lights cyclists are higher watts than your bulb then???
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 22 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may not have a higher wattage but modern LEDs can easily exceed the output of a 35W incandescent bulb using under 12V
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 22 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they have got better but last time I tried a few LED headlight bulbs in BA20D fitting they were shite. Looked great on the adverts with them illuminating a wall 5 meters away but in real world use they didn't cast a very focused light very far at all so despite being bright were pretty hopeless for a headlight.

I just used to use the BA20D bulbs labelled "xenon" off eBay when I had bikes using crappy BA20D headlights. Did me fine tearing around unlit country lanes at night.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 24 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just have a spotlight bolted to the side of the headlight on the NTV.

Its like daylight infront of me. Laughing


It is only wired into the high beam though, so i dont forget to turn it off for oncoming traffic.
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