Nissan GT-R (car thread) poll

[AJI]

Just a really random general question really. I'm sure you've all seen it on Top Gear, or the interweb, or used it in Gran Turismo.

https://www.autospies.com/images/users/carlover99/nissan-gt-r.jpg

I post on a couple of car forums and it's been sparking some pretty healthy debate. Inevitably you get some strong opinions both for and against, but I'm not interested in that.

What I'd like to know, is just a quick straw poll - is the Nissan GT-R a supercar, in your opinion? I shan't tell you what I think as I don't want to bias it one way or the other. Simple yay or nay, supercar or not?

Obviously feel free to banter and argue about whether it's brilliant or shit also
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[Rawker]

I know a few folk who are on the waiting list for it,

got one person already wanting to book me for photos for the week they get theirs.

I think it just makes supercar status due to its handling and outright power.

Most supercars will start to over-steer and go sideways whilst your still able to put down the power in this.

it seem to have a mix of the handling of an exige but with the power of a supercar.

[Benj]

id say its in the lower half of the super car status....
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[trevoriv]

I want to have physical relations with that car, i think that makes it a supercar.
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[st3v3]

As with the GTR-34, I believe it is.

I too, get that "phwoaar" factor with these 2.

Mmmmmm looks so.. beastly yet super sexy

EDIT in fact, I have a picture on my wall of one in red head to head with a white Audi R8. Shove a blue GTR34 in the middle face on and you've got the perfect poster.
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[Dom_]

Supercar is a term generally used for a high-end sports car, whose performance is highly superior to that of its contemporaries. It has been defined specifically as "a very expensive, fast or powerful car with a centrally located engine, and stated in more general terms: "it must be very fast, with sporting handling to match," "it should be sleek and eye-catching" and its price should be "one in a rarified atmosphere of its own. but the proper application of the term is subjective and disputed, especially among enthusiasts. The use of the term can be dependent on the era: a vehicle that may have been considered a supercar at one time may not retain its superiority indefinitely. The term supercar may refer to factory-built, street-legal sports cars. Some supercars include some of the features required for race cars, like the roll cage, while other supercars are in general race cars with only the minimum legal required modifications made (e.g. meeting emission regulations, legal tyres, limited exhaust note) to be street legal.

It meets nearly all the criteria.

Yes its a supercar.

[Phoenix]

Ugly little bug isn't it

I've always thought supercar to mean bloody expensive and designed to look fast not necessarily go fast. As face it many 'supercars' including old ones that are still classed as supercars are slower than a £20K Lancer Evo which isn't a supercar.

[MarJay]

Its a supercar for the people!

If it can lap the 'ring faster than a GT3RS, then its blatantly a supercar. There are plenty of ugly supercars around, so its not about looks. There are some expensive slow cars around so it isn't about price.

Its about performance, and the GTR has that in spades. Of course its a supercar dammit! and why does it have to cost £20k more in the UK than in Japan Dammit?

And why can't I afford one Dammit!?!
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[t121anf]

i voted no as i don't think main stream manufacturers make supercars, so that includes the R8.

to me a supercar is made by companies that just make supercars.

[Phoenix]

I've never really thought of the R8 as a supercar either, it's got an Audi badge, costs about 80grand and just don't really come across as one, bit like a porsche 911, never really considered that a supercar either until you get to the really fancy versions, the GTS RR Carrerra TTRS or whatever they call it.

[st3v3]

Yeah, but to that end, let's not for get that Audi own Lamborghini and the R8 is a cheap mini lambo. Surely that means it is? And if that is, the GTR is /Clarkson.
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[G]

To me, yes - alongside things like the Ultima GTR, but others would see that as they're not ridiculously expensive for the performance, they shouldn't be.

On Phoenix's Evo point; I'd usually expect a 'supercar' to be 2 door, rather than 4.

[MarJay]

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[chris-red]

It's too cheap for a supercar, and it arguably has 4 seats. It's an amazing motor mind
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[Kickstart]

Hi

To my definition of a supercar, no it isn't. Doesn't mean that I don't think it is a great car.

To me, a supercar is one were performance is paramount with few concessions. Afraid having 4 seats, to me, is a compromise that stops it being a supercar.

All the best

Keith
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[AngelGrinder]

Can carry 4 people resonably comfortably, doesn't look like a futeristic spaceship crossed with a missle, and doesn't cost over 100K.

It has the performance, but not the out and out looks of a supercar.



IMO...
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[Blau Zedong]

The Skyline lineage is years old (think 1950's) and was originally a product of the Prince Motor Company. For the most part they were typical medium saloon cars untill some bright spark came up with the plan of developing the engine from the R380 factory racer for road use. The road version was known as the S20 and was dropped into the exisiting 4 door Skyline to create the first GTR. Not too long after a two door version was offered, known as the KPGC10 in order to homologate a SWB chassis for saloon car racing. This is the car that started the GTR legend, and became one of the most succesful tarmac racers ever. They followed it up with the KPGC110 which had the same underpinnings with a fastback style body, but this was only made in small numbers, partly down to the fuel crisis. After that there were no more GTR's untill the '89 R32, which again skullf@@ked all the competition in saloon car racing untill they changed the rules. Tis only the GTR's that have heritage - stuff like the 240K was just a Datsun Laurel with a nice coupe bodyshell.
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