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glenbat
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: opening up a gsxr600 Reply with quote

its my first bike and im still getting used to her (K3 model), im revving up to 7 or 8k at the mo, is there enough power in 2nd and the higher gears to lift the fiont wheel while accelerating hard?
Its not that I want to wheelie I just dont want to get caught out while opening her right up and landing on my arse.
Obviously I'll keep my body weight forward

Any advice? Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try it yourself, just dont snap the throttle open, ease it on..

Go faster...slowly. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chances of bringing it up off the throttle in gears 2 or higher are unlikely unless your using a particular technique to do it. Just winding the throttle on is unlikely to get you into trouble with regards the front wheel.

Be more aware of cracking the throttle wide open now the roads are becoming wet and greasy. Always wait until the bike is upright out of corners if your going to wind it on and keep things smooth.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned I'd more worry about wheel spins.

If the front wheel starts to come up in second, it will be quite gradually.

You would have to really, really try to flip it I suspect - and I mean be trying to wheely and then holding the throttle fully open for quite a while after the front started to lift, while in second, to actually flip it.


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PostPosted: 19:43 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're (un)lucky and really ham-fisted with the throttle then you just might manage it - but i doubt it.
I have to really crack the throttle open to get the front up in 1st on my K5 750.
(not that i ever try, honest officer, my hand just slipped on the throttle)
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubtful you'd be able to wheelie it (albeit intentionally) in second gear, as others have said it'd more than likly result in a wheel spin if you crack it open.

Try to be smoothe on the throttle and change at higher revs you pansy...that's where the thrill's at!
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch out if accelerating hard over any crests / hump back bridges or similar, as you will probably do a small wheelie.

My bike was prone to this when the shock had no damping left - was a bit scary but no so bad if you are expecting it to happen Wink
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have to really crack the throttle open to get the front up in 1st on my K5 750.


shocking

Mines lifts in 1st gear with ease, 2nd gear with a bit of bounce, then again my newer better sexier 750 is a whole 2hp more so who knows LOL Wink

your 600 will power wheely, Just do 2nd gear clutch wheelys its better and safer and you have more rev range to play around with
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

u wont get it up in second by mistake, not a hope
i had a k5 600 and it would barely come up in first without bouncing or chopping the throttle, a mild lift is all that results from hitting it wide open from most places
if u accidentally pull the clutch in now it would be a different story
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, it won't power up in second. If you knew how you might be able to abuse it and force it up then but not easily.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought these newer bikes where a bit more wheelie prone. Rolling Eyes

I'll stick with my 15yr old 2 stroke I think. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gear them to the same as your 15 year old bike and they'll be a tad wheelie prone Smile. Quite high gearing these days, often with short first gears.

Saying that, had my zx6 come up a bit in second when changing up a few times while 'on it'. Downgeared 600s will probably come up from power with a flick of the wrist - but even then, we're still probably talking a top speed of over 80 in that gear.
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ENXrrVrSyQ

look at that mate and just take it easy

Get some protection on and wear a helmet

and go have fun ( in a car park or something)
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

600's are pussy cats, ride them like a 50cc Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:
600's are pussy cats, ride them like a 50cc Thumbs Up


One of these days...Darwin will be having his way with you.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

EllioTT_GiXXeR wrote:
600's are pussy cats, ride them like a 50cc Thumbs Up


In what country? I'm sure you wouldn't be able to open up a 600 like a 50cc on your small island. Unless you like swimming. Razz
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 636 will come up in second with a bounce on the bars and using the "shut and snap open the throttle" technique, and lifts all by itself in 1st if not leaning ridiculously over the front.
Quite predictable.

What isnt as tame or predictable, is its tendency to spin up when giving it a fistful of rpm coming out of a slidey corner Confused I'd imagine it'd be similar on other 600's
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ranna wrote:
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I have to really crack the throttle open to get the front up in 1st on my K5 750.


shocking

Mines lifts in 1st gear with ease, 2nd gear with a bit of bounce, then again my newer better sexier 750 is a whole 2hp more so who knows LOL Wink


Lol, maybe i'm just a big girl/fat bastard then, but to get a decent* wheelie on the power i have to wind it up, shut the throttle and then crack it wide open. Personally i prefer to ping the clutch in 2nd, i find it much more predictable.

*I define a 'decent wheelie' as more than just a tiddler of a couple of inches, which is all i get from giving it the berries from say a standing start, or over a crest/bump.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 03/04 zx6 is definitely the most wheelie prone of the modern 600s, comes up in first of its own accord every time as it hits its powerband
r6 would be next i reckon, gsxrs are very stable and predictable
i dont thing bouncing or chopping is using the power on its own, u are doing other stuff, so its unlikely that it will be done by mistake


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PostPosted: 18:53 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom_ wrote:
Unless you like swimming. Razz


Probably in a pool of your own blood...
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hairychipsticks wrote:
the 03/04 zx6 is definitely the most wheelie prone of the modern 600s, comes up in first of its own accord every time as it hits its powerband

My 01 ZX6 would do that if you held the throttle open properly, as did the CBR-RR I rode and various others, etc.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldnt get the front wheel to lift on my k2 750 in 2nd gear, it just used to bobble, managed it on a gsxt thou fairly easy though.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Gear them to the same as your 15 year old bike and they'll be a tad wheelie prone Smile. Quite high gearing these days, often with short first gears.


So how do you explain the one in third as you hit the powerband then? (and the bike I'm referring to was made in 1981) Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

A) I meant to say long first gears.

B) I was suggesting they were wheelie prone due to shorter gearing. I presume your 1981 bike wasn't geared for 170mph+ in top gear.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 31 Jul 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys im new to this and im abit lost :s??? ive got a gsxr 600 srad, will it or wont it power wheelie in 1st gear?
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