This new particle-accelerator thing they're about to turn on

[Hetzer]

So a bunch of scientists go to various govts and say "We'd like to build this huge big thing so we can prove how the universe started. Can we have absolute shed-loads of money please?" And the govts go "Prove how the universe started? Sure, how many billions would you like?"

Something doesn't add up.
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[rumppole]

In this power hungry and cash greedy time we live in, one can only assume that someone with priviledged knowledge of this experiment and its possible end results has thought wow....... this is gonna make me famous and rich beyond imagining.

I have read numerous reports claiming this experiment may give us a total understanding of quantum physics. I can only assume that this will give us a level of power that only the gods of myth should possess. Imagine.... a total understanding of everything.

One thing I do know.... no government spends that amount of money unless they feel it can benefit them in some way.
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[SoND]

It's not that expensive when you compare it to the 2012 olympic budget. I'd rather give the money to scientists than fund the disaster that will be the london olympics.
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[ncrn]

I didn't think cern were government funded?
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[panrider_uk]

Member states of CERN are Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, the Slovak Republic, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

The money doesn't come from a single country.

Mark
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[ncrn]

I'm fairly sure its like most things in science, you unlock one part of the puzzle and that can be a fairly complex and seemingly useless thing, but from that you can do so much.

It's like when electricity was invented, I'm fairly sure it didn't seem mega useful straight away but, well look around you and you can see all the uses it has.

It could just be a small step toward something bigger, or it could be a total flop. I'm not expecting much to happen tomorrow, if anything I imagine it'd be halted for a broken component or similar..
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[Fawbish]

Has anyone noticed how little there is on the news about it?


I mean, its a potential "end the world" scare story, and no one has fully picked up on it. I would have thought it would be a headliner.


I personally think theres some supression going on with the media, someone stopping them from scaring the ignorant masses.


Obviously theres articles on the web etc, but absolutely tiny amounts on the main news on television.

That makes me suspicious about that alone. Let alone the amount of money, the unknowns etc.


They could discover a 5th dimension?
The higgs boson particle?
Black holes that "could" appear and also "could" instantaneously disappear?


Hmm.

Personally, if a Half-Life situation arises, I'll be all for it. Now THAT would make life more interesting! Fight for the survival of our species and shit!
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[pa_broon74]

Apparently the collision of these things happen naturally anyway so its nothing new. Its just they can never tell when or where so can't study it.

One of the possible outcomes is an advancement towards clean cheap energy, I'm in favour of that.


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[ncrn]

I do remember reading at some point that these sort of collisions happen on earth fairly frequently anyway, I don't expect us to all die tomorrow. It made some good sensationalist reporting at one point, but I can't help but laugh at people who are genuinely convinced we will all die tomorrow .

According to their website there will be a live feed, but I don't know if that means they will public publish what they find or if they will keep it in house?
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[pa_broon74]

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Hi

I don't know enough about the subject to say whether it is safe or not, although the scare stories published have done nothing to convince me that it isn't safe.

I have no great objection to large sceince experiments if they truely will help in the development of useful technologies. If, as someone above suggested, it brought about cheap energy then the ~£5b cost would be a bargain.

All the best

Keith
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[Ork12]

Worth the cash as it'll just further our understanding of everything. Who knows where it could lead, but hopefully it could lead to helping understand how to possibly CREATE energy, something that at the moment we think/know is impossible.

If that happens then there'd be no more worrying about absolute zero

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[GhostRider]

I think the reason theres not been much media coverage is due to the nature of the topic. Can you imagine newsreaders on the 6 o'clock news trying to summarise in a 2-3 minute slot what the LHC is, why it was built, what it can/might do, and the implications of the results etc? Most people watching after coming in from a days graft will be hearing nothing but static before the words "Higgs boson" get a mention.

Not to mention, if they started sayin "Well, there is a small chance this could destroy us all" the panic that might ensue, and when nothing does happen, and the aftermath is plaiin for all to see, the news network would get the blame for inciting hysteria.

I for one dont think a bloody thing will happen, but thats because im very skeptical it will work first time round, a machine of such magnitude and the very precise nature of the subject matter makes me think it could take up to a year before they get a clean run. Then lets not forget that whilst most people have been reading up on how it could destroy the world and how it might prove this and that, I doubt anyones considered that whatever results they get are going to take months and months of careful analysis with much scrutiny. Anything that comes up will probably be contested by a variety of different experts in the field. plus, for anything top be proven in science you need to see something occur consistently, and therefore repetition is an absolute, and each repitition must undergo the same kind of analysis.

Im willing to bet we get nothing useful out of this for a good 5-10 years, and even then I'll wager that it will only present more questions and unknowns.

GhostRider
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