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PostPosted: 06:06 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Are your children worth more to you or G Brown? Reply with quote

From here...... www.tpuc.org


After many weeks and months even of research, a very disturbing piece of knowledge has come to light.

A brief look into history will explain a few points that will evidently give you a greater understanding of where the legislation comes from.

From the early years of sea faring trade right up to present day under admiralty/commercial law a vessel after having entered port and successfully moored, would be handed over to the “Harbour Master” via the process of registering the vessel with this person.
What in fact happens upon registration is a temporary title change occurs, this basically means that the “Harbour Master” is responsible for the safety of the vessel whilst it is in his port, in effect having temporary title/ownership.

To this day registration still means the same thing, ie; that transfer of legal title to the body you have registered it with.

The worst possible way that this process could have been abused is in the registration of births!
Do not think that it is the UK alone that this corruption spews from; it is in fact used all over the world.

When your beautiful magical creation comes howling into the world, the baby at that time still belongs to you as you are its natural lawful guardians, and the government has not levy on the baby at all.

When you are at the hospital you are told that “you (must) register the child within 42 days” what is not relayed to you is that they have NO POWER to make you do this, they use “legal obligation” and will point you to an act called “Births and Deaths registration Act 1953” this act carries NO POWER WHATSOEVER! And to add to the government’s deception they use the word “must” in telling you to do it, when in fact this word is not what it seems, it is in legalese terms a choice or “may” it is just deception.

You now think why would the government be interested in doing such a thing?
This is extremely easy to answer.

As you may or may not know, this country, as does most countries in the world, operates in bankruptcy, and the debt cannot be paid, as we have no have real money with which to pay the debt, our currency is not backed by anything valuable, it used to backed by gold, but the traitor Gordon Brown got rid of it “real cheap” now we have nothing backing our currency so it is in fact not money, it is (Fiat Currency) i.e. just a promissory note, if you look at the money you have in your wallet, where it used to say “I promise to pay the bearer the sum of **** in gold” it now says “I promise to pay the bearer the sum of” what this means is that if you took it to the bank and asked for your gold they would not give it to you, they would instead give you a simple five pound note for a five pound note and a ten pound note for a ten pound note etc...

Now the disgusting part! Our children are used as the backing for this money, because we operate in bankruptcy we have nothing of value to offer the “Bankers” so what the government offers these financial criminals is our labour, yes that is what I said! We are the collateral; our children when registered are used as collateral on the government’s loans.

When our beautiful children are born and we register them the government takes out a bond, that bond is a set sum, and matures as the children do, they calculate that a child’s tax income over his entire life is X amount of pounds and it borrows against that, yes in essence we are sold into slavery and what is worse you never see that money, which in fact amounts to millions of pounds per person so when these crooks say you get benefits “you are not getting any benefits” you are simply getting a microscopic portion of what you are worth to them, and it’s even better as it does not matter if you work or not, that fact of the matter is the bond is worth the same regardless, it does not suddenly de value because you are not employed at that time.

Now the nastiest bit of all, when we “register” our children, we, under admiralty law abandon our children and the government takes up salvage, I know, it sounds insane, it can’t be true right? IT IS TRUE!
A simple show of how your child no longer belongs to you is this, mandatory vaccinations, mandatory schooling, holiday the children when they say you can and not before... the list goes on as they tell you how to manage their property and if you don’t do it their way, their appointed guardians take your children away (criminal social workers).

I don’t expect you to swallow this straight away, although I would hope that you would straight away realise that this sounds right... and would investigate, yourself further.

When you register something/anything you give up legal title to it, and instead get a certificate of title, this is worthless, and this is why you own nothing NOT EVEN YOUR CHILDREN!

Do not register your children if you want them to grow up free it’s that simple

By Guy Euden (Freeman of England)




Whatever way you look at it, its outrageous.

Sorry if this is blindingly obvious to some/many of you but I have only just read about it.

Thought that it would generate some decent conversation on here.


Andy.
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PostPosted: 06:27 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of true

To Precis for others

, ie the debt the government uses to pay things today is guarenteed by the labour of the unborn.

However indenture is not forever in that as said people can escape to other places, ok a similar systems exist elsewhere but looking at the debt , its a choice between selling your great great great grandchildren, or just your grand children.

The UK/US are in such incredible debt (note AIG's bail out created 85bn yesterday) that your entire blood line is sold onto slavery.
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PostPosted: 06:32 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are only sold on if we let it happen. The more people who know about it and act upon it the harder it becomes.

Until eventually (ideally of course) the whole country stands up and says NO!

If everyone does they have nowhere to turn.

But of course that is a long long way off from happening if ever at all.
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quote from the Matrix seems apt, see the parrallels?.

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The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.



Just look at the babyboomer generation they have sold their children down the river for benefits of their own , voting for tax cuts , unrealistic pensions etc.

People who vote labour for PFI which indentures your children forever, which will no doubt continue under the next government.
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PostPosted: 06:38 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scary world innit, when you start peeling away the facade of society we are fed.

As a people, we are dumb. We've let governments do as they wish for generations. What did we think would happen?
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its depressing is what it is.


In true hetzer style.....


These scum need ripping out of their offices and stripping of their clothes and jobs, they need to be flogged and beaten while being marched naked through the streets of London on the way to the gallows.

Nothing else will suffice.

Utter vermin.
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Its depressing is what it is.


In true hetzer style.....


These scum need ripping out of their offices and stripping of their clothes and jobs, they need to be flogged and beaten while being marched naked through the streets of London on the way to the gallows.

Nothing else will suffice.

Utter vermin.


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PostPosted: 18:04 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

We never really own anything and our children are a gift from the lord. Angelic
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 17 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lord can kiss my arse, so can the government.
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PostPosted: 06:13 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose your kids wouldn't need worry about this if you were a huge drugs baron or a criminal master mind.

Could be worse, you could be born in Africa and have to deal with savage tribes. You child is born and nade comes through the window.
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PostPosted: 06:15 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
I suppose your kids wouldn't need worry about this if you were a huge drugs baron or a criminal master mind.

Could be worse, you could be born in Africa and have to deal with savage tribes. You child is born and nade comes through the window.


When I live in africa I will worry about african problems.


And what is that first bit all about?
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PostPosted: 06:21 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean if your family earned money through means against the system, the original post wouldn't bother you.
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats quite an assumption, and I don't really think you are in a position to make that assumption either.

Why would it not matter, its not just my family this affects its EVERYONE, including you.

Why are we paying tax? They have already made money from us in a rather underhand and deceitful manner.

If you want to carry on like everything is fine, then so be it thats your FREE choice. But don't make unsubstantiated assumptions about me or my reasons for not being happy with the REAL criminals.
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
I suppose your kids wouldn't need worry about this if you were a huge drugs baron or a criminal master mind.


Guv...read that sentance again, and tell me where i mention you. If you are a criminal master mind or a drugs baron im very sorry if i offended you.
I was saying 'if' as in if 'your family' (anyones) made 'dirty' cash then you wouldn't have a problem with this 'kids for cash' thing.
As for thinking everythings ok, well for me it is in regards to working like a twat for 5 days a week to enjoy 2 because thats how i choose to earn my beer money.
Show me a way out with the same money and ill do it tomorow.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 18 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt think you were assuming I was a drugs baron. Rolling Eyes

I thought you were assuming I would not be bothered about it if I was a drugs baron, which is why its irrelevant.
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PostPosted: 06:16 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, kinda loosing interest fast here. If i register my children, i might end up like myself, being owned by the government.

If i follow the original post...

Do not register your children if you want them to grow up free it’s that simple

Then everythings dandy?
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PostPosted: 06:22 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Right, kinda loosing interest fast here. If i register my children, i might end up like myself, being owned by the government.


How can you end up like you?...... You ARE you.

as for losing interest, so am I, but that started when you went into fantasy land about drugs barons.


killa wrote:

If i follow the original post...

Do not register your children if you want them to grow up free it’s that simple

Then everythings dandy?


No obviously not, thats the point Rolling Eyes Everything is not dandy.

If you cant grasp it, click the link and have a read, thats what it is for fella.
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PostPosted: 06:31 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
How can you end up like you?...... You ARE you.

as for losing interest, so am I, but that started when you went into fantasy land about drugs barons.


Sorry typo, should have said 'they'.

You mised the point with drug barons/registering/taxes/labour

So the reason for posting it was to let us know about it, and if we act on it now, the UK government and our standards of living will improve?
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:

So the reason for posting it was to let us know about it, and if we act on it now, the UK government and our standards of living will improve?


If EVERYONE acts upon things like this then yes.

But that wasn't the point, it was posted up for people who were interested and to spark up some conversation on the matter. Not hypothetically talk about drug barons and master criminals. If you aint interested then stop clicking the thread and stop replying, your cynical posts are proof enough that it doesn't interest or bother you.

So why keep opening it?
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok less cynical....let me see...

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Until eventually (ideally of course) the whole country stands up and says NO!

If everyone does they have nowhere to turn.


Explain this then, seems like you have the idea that with no where to turn the UK governement will be fudged. Once they are cumbling in the hands of a non registered generation, what is the positives?
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant forcibly take tax from you, as you wouldnt have a bank account....



...in exchange for no free healthcare, no upkeep of general daily things like transport etc (not that theres much now lol)


If your daughter was ill Guv, how would you look after her without the NHS? Am pretty sure places like BUPA would hoike the prices to prey upon the needy aswell.


Its an admirable idea to try and get out of the shitty situation we're in, but too many people are reliant on the system. The Matrix analogy from Itchy is pretty much perfect.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt say my daughter should not have been registered, I am pointing out what the filth that presides in government do when they are registered, something that seems to have gone well over killa's head. I have no solution but that does not stop me pointing out what they do when I read about it.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 19 Sep 2008    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

https://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7040453665540929835


no conspiracy theory's be here Cool very interesting video
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