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black tinted visors are only legal in the daytime. says so on the visor.
I have been pulled about 6 times for mine, police just say... go home and dont do it again.
dont say "i was riding with it up though" if its on the helmet... its illegal.
if you get pulled... just say "sorry officer i got held up at work (or whatever) and I didnt bring my clear visor".
"i'm sorry, it won't happen again".
They cant be bothered to do the paperwork for a stupid offence, so as long as your nice and understanding they will let you go.
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| Quote: | a legal tinted visor can be worn anytime, day or night, it just isn't advisable |
I'm afraid theres no such thing as a legal tinted visor at night sir, every tinted visor at night is illegal. unless its one of them shitty yellow ones.
| Quote: | They use a standard mould for both black and clear visors, and if you look at your clear visor it will probably say "For daytime use only". |
I'm afraid this is untrue sir, AGV use different moulds. You cant put "for daytime use only" on a clear visor. That would just be stupid. Plus then technically (in the eyes of the law) it would deem the clear visor illegal at night  |
If T.C says it's so, then it's so. Listen to this guy's advice.
I've ridden with tinted visors at night in driving sleet, and believe me it is not an experience that I wish to repeat. I'm not the type of person that makes sure everything on my bike and/or person is legal (far from it), but tinted visors at night are a PITA, especially when the weather turns. It's not much of a hassle to take a clear visor with you is it? ____________________ Current: ZZR1400
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| carlperkins001 wrote: |
I'm afraid theres no such thing as a legal tinted visor at night sir, every tinted visor at night is illegal. unless its one of them shitty yellow ones.
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Under what legislation? Act section and regulation?
If the visor is a BSI approved under BS4110 XA, YA or ZA which means it is a maximum 50% tint, there is nothing to prevent the rider wearing it at night other than stupidity.
| Quote: | I'm afraid this is untrue sir, AGV use different moulds. You cant put "for daytime use only" on a clear visor. That would just be stupid. Plus then technically (in the eyes of the law) it would deem the clear visor illegal at night |
Did they tell you that at the factory? I was there about 8 weeks ago and they were certainly using the same moulds, Shoei were using the same moulds for both clear and dark when I was last at the factory in Japan about 12 months ago as were Arai.
| Quote: | Plus then technically (in the eyes of the law) it would deem the clear visor illegal at night |
Legislation, act and section that states that they can't use the same moulds?
Of course they can use the same moulds, it is the BS accreditation that matters, and I have just looked at my AGV clear visor, and guess what? It says "Daytime use only, and it is marked BS4110 ZA!  ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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I ride with this visor:
https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/OllieePaul/IMG_0730.jpg
Even at night, if it's just a short ride ~5 miles or so I just leave that visor on and keep it up. I've not been nabbed for it yet. I think the police have better things to be looking for.
If it's a longer ride, generally swap to clear at night. ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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Carl, try buying a tinted visor at HG or other reputable firm, you don't have a chance in hell of getting a non legal tint.
As for Police stopping you, have seen it many many times. ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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| Quote: | Carl, try buying a tinted visor at HG or other reputable firm, you don't have a chance in hell of getting a non legal tint. |
I have one from Tinklers, its a legal tint, just only in the daytime.
| Quote: | If the visor is a BSI approved under BS4110 XA, YA or ZA which means it is a maximum 50% tint, there is nothing to prevent the rider wearing it at night other than stupidity. |
Really?? so if i get pulled again i can say.. under what legislation. and they will say, oh i'm sorry it is legal, i pulled you because i thought you were being stupid.
(the way thats written it looks like im being sarcastic, but im not. serious question.)
| Quote: | You're a bit dim aren't you? |
no need to start abusing people.. whats the point?
and i never claimed to be an expert..
I assumed that as i had been pulled over numerous times for having a tinted visor on at night. And everytime the cop said, if you do it again you will get a fine.
I naturally thought that unless it was an offence to wear a tinted visor at night.. then they wouldnt be able to slap a fine on me.
and a friend of mine got a £30 fine for a tinted visor at night, which he also bought from tinklers. so i assumed it was illegal.
| Quote: | Under what legislation? Act section and regulation? |
I was thinking that there probably is'nt a direct legislation for it, they will probably fine you saying that you were driving without due care and attention, because with a legal tint dark visor at night you cant see the road properly?? |
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You're talking arse I'm afraid CarlPerkins as states by the people above.
If you look at the "day use only" visor you won't find an ECE approval number on it.
That's because it's not approved for road use in Europe.
Just for arguement's sake assuming you were correct, at what point in the eyes of law would it stop being day time? Sun set (bearing in mind in winter it's already bloody dark before the sun sets), or would be it a sliding time scale based on when the police thought it was safe throughout every day of the year?
It's impossible to enforce such a law if it did exist (which is doesn't) with regard to visors. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 135 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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