AccidentCam

[Mr Hammers]

Reading all the posts about crashes due to third parties, and then those third parties denying later it was their fault, it reminded me of an idea i had years ago, when i was driving for a courier company.

How about a usb stick sized camera that you could mount discretely on the bike somewhere, that would be set to record on a constant 15 second recording loop, meaning, as the 15 seconds ends it records over the last 15th second, so it always has the last 15 seconds, if you see what i mean (this technology already exist for professional video cameras, btw). Then, upon impact or the bike being dropped, it would automatically stop recording.

That way, assuming you're in the right and the driver was at fault, you would have the 15 seconds of video leading up to the collision to prove to the courts/insurance companies that it was indeed the driver's error. (Needless to say, it would be your choice to mention the camera's existence if it was actually your own fault!)

Once fitted, forget it's there. Then should something happen, you have no need to worry about witnesses, or not having any camera on you to take pics of the aftermath - which don't always help anyway, and the driver is banged to rights, an' no mistake, guv'nor.

So, what do you reckon? Is there anything out there like this that already exists, or should i go call the Beeb right now for my spot on Dragon's Den..?
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[Whosthedaddy]

I suspect it'd be more incriminating rather than protecting in most cases.

[Ben.]

and if you were in the wrong? im fine thanks. it would be ripped off my bike within a day of owning it if it was installed on there.
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[steppen22]

How does the loop stop?
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[yen_powell]

They already do this in Japan at traffic signalled crossroads with high accident rates.

The camera is filming constantly, eventually wiping it's memory when capacity is reached. However, when any loud noises happen (like a collision between vehicles) the recording a minute before and a minute after is shunted off and stored seperately for examination by the investigators.
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[Mr Hammers]

Not heard of that, yen, but yes it would be a similar principle, only this would be at full memory capacity all the time, only erasing 1 second every second.
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[Paivi]

It's becoming more and more common in the US in cars. Some insurance companies either insist on them or give you a discount if you have one.

I'd gladly have one on my bike.
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[Stelmer]

I've been after something like this for ages.

I want something portable I can use.

[Mr Hammers]

[Graham88]

So when you crash you'd be scrambling to your bike to stop it before it records over the accident

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[powelly]

[krebsy]

hmm. Wire the power feed or a cut off signal into the tilt switch. So if the bike goes over then the recording stops. Simple enough in theory, just needs to be shock proof then to survive the smash. It'l then not cut out when you go over a cattle grid or a speedbump..

K.
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[Finglonga]

The Airbag has sensors that go off in an accident so no reason the same can't be used in a camera, Police can even detect the speed the car was doing at the time of the accident. Flash memory is more than enough shock resistance to survive a head on smash.


Already (as said) being used. Clicky
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[nick606]

Its alright but its only good if you get hit head on. Unless you had four cameras recording the different angles.

[stemc]

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Stagecoach in Stockport has been using them for the last couple of years

[G]

I wondered about this sort of thing in the past.
While it'd be great for me to have, not sure I want anyone else to have it.

You overtake someone when you've got fine visibility, but they haven't of the road ahead; they send it to the police.
You are doing 75mph on the motorway, going past someone doing 70mph, they send it to the poilice.
You are doing a rolling burnout to wheelie in a crowded kitten sanctuary, a tape gets sent to the police.

All in all, a rather concerning prospect for our society; maybe time to consider moving back to Papua New Guinea (when I lived there about twenty years ago, they were just introducing the very first road that had a speed limit!)

[short1uk]

I have an Action ATC3K mounted in my car and then on my bike when i am on that, it records every day, every journey I have seen some mad stuff when on the motorway to work everyday

C

[Graham88]

[s44678]

All things considered, I think the cons -

-potential incrimination
-technical feasibility
-cost
-slide toward surveillence culture

outweight the pros

-potentially faster processing of your insurance claim

At the end of the day, if it geniuinely wasn't your fault, it should go in your favour eventually.

You would think that something like this would speed up your claim and it would all be rosey, but you can bet the insurance companies would just find something else to delay over. Its in their interest to hold out payment for as long as possible.

[short1uk]

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