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Feasty
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Clutch lever adjusting! Reply with quote

I had my bike serviced this weekend, all went well however why do they ALWAYS insist on altering my clutch lever everytime!!

What I want to know is am I doing something wrong with how I have my lever adjusted? and why the shop thinks having it adjusted their way is better?

What do you do??

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Bofh5
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
same here, i like my clutch set so it bites closer to to grip but everyone else seems to have it further out which to me is harder to control as your fingers are stretched.
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Feasty
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bofh5 wrote:
hi
same here, i like my clutch set so it bites closer to to grip but everyone else seems to have it further out which to me is harder to control as your fingers are stretched.


Glad to see I'm not on my own with this thought then!! Thumbs Up
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rotax81
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is a set standard and the shop is only doing their job.

setting it the way you have it can/may cause clutch drag problems.

the opposite can/may cause clutch slip problems.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to be awkward, I go for an in the middle approach - with a bit of free travel at either end. I can't abide clutches set up which instantly start to disengage as in the 'shop' diagram.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it only disengages when it's next to the bar then you run the risk of not actually fully disengaging it when you pull it in, which, actually, isn't that bad on a bike. May find it's more clunky putting it in first gear as the input shaft in the gearbox will have pressure on it.
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doggone
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tend to get nearer & nearer the bars imperceptibly.
So if not re-adjusted eventually you'd have problems.
They aren't to know if you're capable of altering it yourself....
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xenocide wrote:
If it only disengages when it's next to the bar then you run the risk of not actually fully disengaging it when you pull it in, which, actually, isn't that bad on a bike. May find it's more clunky putting it in first gear as the input shaft in the gearbox will have pressure on it.



Ah, so that's why my bike clunks down into first?

Think that would go away if I adjust the clutch out a wee bit then?
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Feasty
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine clunks into 1st regardless of how the clutch is adjusted, I think some bikes just do that!?
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you hold the clutch in for a few seconds before putting it into 1st gear it will not clunk if the clutch is ajusted right.
what you are basically doing is pulling the clutch in, slipping it into gear while the gearbox is still spinning.

*note: if held in for too long it may not go into gear, you then have to let the clutch out very slightly to get it in Very Happy

if it is ajusted wrong it will still clunk regardless as it is dragging. try it with a warm motor though.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:
if you hold the clutch in for a few seconds before putting it into 1st gear it will not clunk if the clutch is ajusted right.
what you are basically doing is pulling the clutch in, slipping it into gear while the gearbox is still spinning.

*note: if held in for too long it may not go into gear, you then have to let the clutch out very slightly to get it in Very Happy

if it is ajusted wrong it will still clunk regardless as it is dragging. try it with a warm motor though.



Fancy coming up to Glasgow and adjusting my clutch so its right then?

I'll have Irn Bru and rolls on square sausage ready in payment. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
rotax81 wrote:
if you hold the clutch in for a few seconds before putting it into 1st gear it will not clunk if the clutch is ajusted right.
what you are basically doing is pulling the clutch in, slipping it into gear while the gearbox is still spinning.

*note: if held in for too long it may not go into gear, you then have to let the clutch out very slightly to get it in Very Happy

if it is ajusted wrong it will still clunk regardless as it is dragging. try it with a warm motor though.



Fancy coming up to Glasgow and adjusting my clutch so its right then?

I'll have Irn Bru and rolls on square sausage ready in payment. Thumbs Up


Well since you're on your way up there rotax81 you could also pop in on me in Sheffield and do the same for my clutch!! I'll lay on a roast with Yorkshire puds and a good pint o bitter! Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 29 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol

i thought the yorkshire people were tight but the scotch look even worse Razz
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