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 Posted: 21:20 - 17 Oct 2008 Post subject: Bike advertising on TV |
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Or the lack of it...
Bikes are now generally accepted as a perfectly acceptable mode of transport, and even actively encouraged now we are all obsessed with the environment, so why is it, with the exception of the adverts during bike races, do we not have any bike adverts on the TV?
I genuniely cannot remember seeing an advert for a motorcycle, or motorcycling based product, on any channel ever outside a bike race? Why?
Am I wrong and I've just not seen them or are bikes still seen as a bit too risky for active publicity in the public domain? ____________________ "THOSE WHO RISK NOTHING, DO NOTHING, ACHIEVE NOTHING, BECOME NOTHING." |
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But with the recent obsession with fuel economy, I would have thought some of them would have jumped on the environmental band wagon and tried to get cagers on to a pair of wheels.
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Bikes and biking is a niche market for a limited number of people.
It's seen as more of a lifestyle choice regardless of efforts to make it acceptable to commuters.
Therefore any money put into advertising is targeted to where it will meet the widest audience for that ad.
However, an analogy can be seen to cigarette advertising where, if you believe the spiel, the emphasis is on getting existing smokers (bikers) to switch brands rather than start smoking (biking).
The nearest to getting people interested would be something like the Honda adverts that show their range of products, including bikes, to raise the whole profile of the company.
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| carlnicholsony2k wrote: | Doesn't that make it the perfect product to advertise? Ones thats already in global use, well proven, very popular, actively encouraged by the government and councils (so far as Tax and congestion charging anyway) and still with huge scope for expansion!
If I had a motorcycle manufacturing company, now would be the bang on time to advertise the feck out of it IMO. I hope someone does, maybe a bit of expansion in the industry could lead the way to lower prices for everyone.
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Have you ever rode a bike in Asia anywhere or in a big European city, I don't mean places like Hong Kong , I mean Taiwan (Taipei isn't bad actually) but you go somewhere like Thailand , or even north of the Border in Guangzhau or Hangzhou and its utterly horrendous so many scooters zipping about its chaos...
It might make more sense in Spain or Italy but it appears that many Brits are afraid to get wet, since there seem to be plenty of FWBs on here too. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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bike ecconomy could be argued to be worse than a car
say 60mpg, for at the most 2 people
If a car gets 40 mpg, for 4 or 5 people...
And 60 is being generous once you get bigger than a 500cc
not sure what MPG sports 600s do, but i bet it is around 40mpg, could argue for the environment it is twice as bad as a car. It may be out for less time as through traffic it is quicker, but it is also most likely to be out for a leisure ride than a car would be
Congestion wise they are better, but again you can argue that when you go out for a blast you are worse than the car that is garaged
As for advertising i must admit i was surprised when i got into bikes how much choice there is. You just dont see them advertised. bike was a bike, sports bike, naked, cruiser, off road the end. So many choices in each category.
But most bikers know what they want next, so advertising wont really help. You dont go into the market looking for a "family bike with good rear leg room"
It is more a hobby market, and not an overly popular one at that.
Saying that an advert for a 125cc for commuting would be interesting.
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| deanoet wrote: | bike ecconomy could be argued to be worse than a car
say 60mpg, for at the most 2 people
If a car gets 40 mpg, for 4 or 5 people...
And 60 is being generous once you get bigger than a 500cc
not sure what MPG sports 600s do, but i bet it is around 40mpg, could argue for the environment it is twice as bad as a car. It may be out for less time as through traffic it is quicker, but it is also most likely to be out for a leisure ride than a car would be
Congestion wise they are better, but again you can argue that when you go out for a blast you are worse than the car that is garaged
As for advertising i must admit i was surprised when i got into bikes how much choice there is. You just dont see them advertised. bike was a bike, sports bike, naked, cruiser, off road the end. So many choices in each category.
But most bikers know what they want next, so advertising wont really help. You dont go into the market looking for a "family bike with good rear leg room"
It is more a hobby market, and not an overly popular one at that.
Saying that an advert for a 125cc for commuting would be interesting.
100 mpg
£15 tax a year
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but then again how often do you see full cars? on my commutes all I see are cars with just the driver....
But keep schtum about the benefits of bikes, because currently bikes are cheap to run (equvilant bike to car a hornet is like a ford focus rs), and the government don't think ah lets make public transport cheaper so more people will use it...
No no they think lets make private vechicles even more expensive than public transport so people will use it... ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 88 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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