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PostPosted: 21:20 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Bike advertising on TV Reply with quote

Or the lack of it...

Bikes are now generally accepted as a perfectly acceptable mode of transport, and even actively encouraged now we are all obsessed with the environment, so why is it, with the exception of the adverts during bike races, do we not have any bike adverts on the TV?

I genuniely cannot remember seeing an advert for a motorcycle, or motorcycling based product, on any channel ever outside a bike race? Why? Confused

Am I wrong and I've just not seen them or are bikes still seen as a bit too risky for active publicity in the public domain?
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren't on screen because bike's still have a genera public "dangerous to use" vibe.

A work mate recently said to me "bikes are dangerous" but weren't 'aware' that I ride one until I said they aren't, its when you got a n0b on them it turns bad.

Most people see bikes as nasty tools of satan, that won't change imo.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

But with the recent obsession with fuel economy, I would have thought some of them would have jumped on the environmental band wagon and tried to get cagers on to a pair of wheels.

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple, motorcyclists are the minority and they would be wasting air time/money advertising outside bike races on tv.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Bike advertising on TV Reply with quote

carlnicholsony2k wrote:
so why is it, with the exception of the adverts during bike races, do we not have any bike adverts on the TV?

Because it's not economically viable?

You can bet the big companies have looked into it and decided they wouldn't get the sales, so don't bother.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes and biking is a niche market for a limited number of people.
It's seen as more of a lifestyle choice regardless of efforts to make it acceptable to commuters.
Therefore any money put into advertising is targeted to where it will meet the widest audience for that ad.

However, an analogy can be seen to cigarette advertising where, if you believe the spiel, the emphasis is on getting existing smokers (bikers) to switch brands rather than start smoking (biking).

The nearest to getting people interested would be something like the Honda adverts that show their range of products, including bikes, to raise the whole profile of the company.

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PostPosted: 14:49 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the same reason you wouldn't see volleyball equipment being advertised on mainstream TV. there just isn't a big enough market to warrant the high advertising costs.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't that make it the perfect product to advertise? Ones thats already in global use, well proven, very popular, actively encouraged by the government and councils (so far as Tax and congestion charging anyway) and still with huge scope for expansion!

If I had a motorcycle manufacturing company, now would be the bang on time to advertise the feck out of it IMO. I hope someone does, maybe a bit of expansion in the industry could lead the way to lower prices for everyone.

Lets see.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlnicholsony2k wrote:
Doesn't that make it the perfect product to advertise? Ones thats already in global use, well proven, very popular, actively encouraged by the government and councils (so far as Tax and congestion charging anyway) and still with huge scope for expansion!

If I had a motorcycle manufacturing company, now would be the bang on time to advertise the feck out of it IMO. I hope someone does, maybe a bit of expansion in the industry could lead the way to lower prices for everyone.

Lets see.


Have you ever rode a bike in Asia anywhere or in a big European city, I don't mean places like Hong Kong , I mean Taiwan (Taipei isn't bad actually) but you go somewhere like Thailand , or even north of the Border in Guangzhau or Hangzhou and its utterly horrendous so many scooters zipping about its chaos...

It might make more sense in Spain or Italy but it appears that many Brits are afraid to get wet, since there seem to be plenty of FWBs on here too.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlnicholsony2k wrote:
Doesn't that make it the perfect product to advertise? Ones thats already in global use, well proven, very popular, actively encouraged by the government and councils (so far as Tax and congestion charging anyway) and still with huge scope for expansion!

If I had a motorcycle manufacturing company, now would be the bang on time to advertise the feck out of it IMO. I hope someone does, maybe a bit of expansion in the industry could lead the way to lower prices for everyone.

Lets see.
They're not though and there lies your issue, I think I read somewhere that bikers make up less than 1% of the motoring 'population' s that shows how popular motorcycles are. They aren't seen as a safe AND practical method of transport.

Where you gonna put ya 2 kids and dog for the school run? Bolt them to the rear grab rail?.......... That's a worker, innit?
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an abundance of bike advertising on TV.
Moto GP.
Long way round.
Endless product placement in film and TV.
It is all advertising, you just don't notice it.
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

bike ecconomy could be argued to be worse than a car

say 60mpg, for at the most 2 people

If a car gets 40 mpg, for 4 or 5 people...


And 60 is being generous once you get bigger than a 500cc
not sure what MPG sports 600s do, but i bet it is around 40mpg, could argue for the environment it is twice as bad as a car. It may be out for less time as through traffic it is quicker, but it is also most likely to be out for a leisure ride than a car would be Smile

Congestion wise they are better, but again you can argue that when you go out for a blast you are worse than the car that is garaged



As for advertising i must admit i was surprised when i got into bikes how much choice there is. You just dont see them advertised. bike was a bike, sports bike, naked, cruiser, off road the end. So many choices in each category.

But most bikers know what they want next, so advertising wont really help. You dont go into the market looking for a "family bike with good rear leg room"

It is more a hobby market, and not an overly popular one at that.

Saying that an advert for a 125cc for commuting would be interesting.
100 mpg
£15 tax a year
etc etc
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

deanoet wrote:
bike ecconomy could be argued to be worse than a car

say 60mpg, for at the most 2 people

If a car gets 40 mpg, for 4 or 5 people...


And 60 is being generous once you get bigger than a 500cc
not sure what MPG sports 600s do, but i bet it is around 40mpg, could argue for the environment it is twice as bad as a car. It may be out for less time as through traffic it is quicker, but it is also most likely to be out for a leisure ride than a car would be Smile

Congestion wise they are better, but again you can argue that when you go out for a blast you are worse than the car that is garaged



As for advertising i must admit i was surprised when i got into bikes how much choice there is. You just dont see them advertised. bike was a bike, sports bike, naked, cruiser, off road the end. So many choices in each category.

But most bikers know what they want next, so advertising wont really help. You dont go into the market looking for a "family bike with good rear leg room"

It is more a hobby market, and not an overly popular one at that.

Saying that an advert for a 125cc for commuting would be interesting.
100 mpg
£15 tax a year
etc etc


but then again how often do you see full cars? on my commutes all I see are cars with just the driver....


But keep schtum about the benefits of bikes, because currently bikes are cheap to run (equvilant bike to car a hornet is like a ford focus rs), and the government don't think ah lets make public transport cheaper so more people will use it...

No no they think lets make private vechicles even more expensive than public transport so people will use it...
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 19 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
There is an abundance of bike advertising on TV.
Moto GP.
Long way round.
Endless product placement in film and TV.
It is all advertising, you just don't notice it.


Spot on, remember the nice shiny RSV conveniently plonked in Transformers? Smile
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