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iCraig
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Car Question! Reply with quote

Right, I am hoping some of you knowledgeable lot can help me!
As some of you may know I drive a Skoda Octavia, and its not got the highest ground clearance at the front, infact its pretty fucking poor as standard.
And now I am using my car to go onto green lanes, and bad roads, its touching down all the time.
So my question is what cars have high ground clearance, that are under the £2k mark, are economical and cheap to insure.

I have been looking at 4x4's but other than the extra ground clearance they don't fit. So any ideas?
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult one.... Thinking
My first thought would be a Subaru Legacy, but they arent very economical.

Maybe a Subaru Justy?

https://www.tapanen.net/justy_01.jpg

4wd and not bad ground clearance, but getting on a bit and might be a bit small for you.

Or you could go crazy and get a Panda 4x4...

https://farm2.static.flickr.com/1041/1366401386_5510bc7e9c_o.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given your love for all things VAG, what about one of the audi or skoda saloons with four wheel drive and bit more clearance.

Why are you driving down green lanes anyway?
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Given your love for all things VAG, what about one of the audi or skoda saloons with four wheel drive and bit more clearance.

Why are you driving down green lanes anyway?


VAGs are too expensive.

And am driving down green lanes now as I am an avid outdoors person, so I need to go down them to get to places.


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PostPosted: 17:18 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki Vitaras are quite cheap, or a Shogun (But insurance might be a bit more expensive than the Octavia)

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:04 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a Toyota hilux and take on the world.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subaru forester........... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Forester
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you geocaching?

For around that price I reckon look for Range Rovers, Discoverys or one of the Suzuki 4x4s.

For gentle green laning you should be able to use pretty much any 4x4 without problems. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about taking your front bumper off.
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PostPosted: 05:10 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
How about taking your front bumper off.


My exhaust would still touch down.
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PostPosted: 05:40 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the Toyota HiLux. can pick up an old one for next to nothing.

IIRC they are classed as a Commercial Vehicle too, So Tax wont bugger your arse!
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few suggestions... all the ones I'm mentioning are lower than group 10 insurance. I've picked 5-door versions of all as I'm assuming you want something reasonably practical, if you have an Octavia at the moment Thumbs Up

Honda HRV
https://www.cvt.co.nz/images/cvt.cars.honda.hrvcopy.jpg
Believe it or not these do appear at under £2k, because I've recently been looking at them myself. Seem pretty reliable, good for a bit of green laning but not heavy off-road stuff, but good on the road too. Around 33mpg quoted.

Honda CRV
https://www.vmrintl.com/reviews/reviewpics/97-01honda_crv.jpg
Same deal as above, but proportionally better on the rough stuff and not as good on the road (though still better than many 4x4s on the road). Can be found even cheaper than the HRV as it's been out longer. Bigger engine but still 30mpg.

Toyota Rav4
https://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/96rav4.jpg
One of the first 4x4s that did a good impression of a car on the road. Absolutely loads about under 2k. Over 30mpg again.

Suzuki Vitara
https://www.quality-cars-direct.co.uk/Cars/SUZUKI/VITARA/1.JPG
Loads of these about too. Roughly 30mpg again. Reliable. Proper off-roaders too.

As well as these, there are numerous pickups etc but they're hardly car-like to drive so assuming the majority of your driving is done on the road still, the ones above are probably better options. Fronteras, Mavericks etc are great off road, but hopeless on it, and probably more to insure.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys, but 4x4s seem really expensive to run.

Also I don't go off road alot just green lanes, so it'd be wasted unless I did take up off-roading which I'd love to. Really the main thing is ground clearance and economy for me, I don't mind paying abit more for tax and insurance but I resent paying for it at the pumps too seeing as I do about 12000 miles a year.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 4WD cars are sufficiently rare that one of them will cost you as much as a 4x4 to run, or won't be worth owning.

A lot of the ones above will give 30mpg, some of the diesels might nudge 40. The only thing I can think of apart from them would a audi A4 quattro diesel, but you'll pay through the nose for it and it may still lack ground clearance.

CRV/HRV seems best suited to your needs.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 4x4 and come off roading. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.carpages.co.uk/suzuki/suzuki_images/suzuki_jimny_21_01_05.jpg

The Suzuki Jimny might suit you - it's a 4x4 but only has a 1.3 engine so is fairly economical for this type of car (the 'official' figure is 38mpg). You should be able to get one for £2k - in fact it's probably worth getting a pre-2001 model for tax reasons, because although the engine is small it has a relatively high CO2 output (according to Gordon Brown anyway).
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

From https://www.whatcar.co.uk/news-special-report.aspx?NA=229782&EL=3226233

"Perhaps the best all-rounder, though, is the Skoda Octavia Estate 4x4 Scout - it has 29mm more ground clearance than the standard car at 180mm, and relatively low emissions of 167g/km."


I used to like the Suzuki Ignis, worth a look... High-up Hatchback, 1.3, there is a 4x4 version too. Have a look on the autotrader website, you'll easily get a good one for under 2 grand.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 17 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

RXS100_Chris wrote:
https://www.carpages.co.uk/suzuki/suzuki_images/suzuki_jimny_21_01_05.jpg

The Suzuki Jimny might suit you - it's a 4x4 but only has a 1.3 engine so is fairly economical for this type of car (the 'official' figure is 38mpg). You should be able to get one for £2k - in fact it's probably worth getting a pre-2001 model for tax reasons, because although the engine is small it has a relatively high CO2 output (according to Gordon Brown anyway).


Nice idea, but far far too small! I forgot to add, its got to be fairly big when you're used to an Octavia, I do carry alot of gear and do carry a few people in the car too. Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig- wrote:
I do carry alot of gear and do carry a few people in the car too. Thinking


Don't try and act like you have friends sonny jim, we know you better than that.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Craig- wrote:
I do carry alot of gear and do carry a few people in the car too. Thinking


Don't try and act like you have friends sonny jim, we know you better than that.


Blow up dolls for the 2+ lane Wink
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about one of those Grand Cherokee's? I know Mcgee had one & they look cool.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowninja wrote:

{EDIT} Citroen Xantia has /very/ adjustable ride height, but only get one if the Suspension Hydraulic Pump has been recently replaced!
The pumps aren't half as bad as said to be.

Citroen XM's are a better bet, dirt cheap, not over high on insurance and there's a few enthusiast sites that are handy for spares IIRC.

Mitsubisi warrior, again not too expensive, commercial category, high clearance and just seems right. Also have nice big motors too, yet economical if you're steady.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 18 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
What about one of those Grand Cherokee's? I know Mcgee had one & they look cool.


Not a bad car just eats fuel, the inline six (4.0) gets 20mpg at the most and the water pumps are awful for going out been through 3.

And if the fuel injection messes up it can get very expensive. Laughing
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