Found innocent of speeding, and still have to pay

[Kickstart]

Hi

OK, it is the Daily Mail, but appears there is a move to disallow anyone who is taken to a magistrates court for a minor offence (such as speeding) from claiming cost. So if you are innocent, and found innocent by the court you cannot claim back the legal costs you have been forced to take on .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083763/Speeding-drivers-pay-court-win-say-ministers.html

All the best

Keith
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

It's so people just take the points and fine instead of fighting. More erosion of our rights.
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[Bofh5]

Who are these morons who dream up this cr@p ?

From my experience of court where 2 of the 3 magistrates fell asleep and the 3rd didn't listen to a word i said its a must if you can afford it to have a solictor.

It's just beyond comprehension what these bottom feeders will come up with next.

Surely they could just fire this tw~t and others like him that would save a few quid.
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[yandy_yay]

Lets all sue the dumb fVck that came up with that idea, and yes we have to tell him first he won't be able to claim HIS costs back if he is succesful at defending his case.

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[carlnicholson...]

As much as I hate being dragged along by Brussells, I can't imagine the bored left wingers within would allow that to go on for long.

Maybe we do need Europe after all if we have fucktards like that running our once Great nation.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

The one plus point to this is that the prosecution should not be able to claim their costs either. And as the speed scamera partnerships are using an organisation set up to provide professional evidence at a deliberatly extortionate price (to scare people out of taking it to court, when they might be hit for a £5k bill) this might actually be useful.

All the best

Keith
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One of the reasons that I decided not to fight my CU30 was that I would have to pay them probably over £4k costs from them if I lost; on top of my own costs... so I can see there would be some benefits to this.

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[carlnicholson...]

That's a point, but still, I hate the way that this country can often behave like a dictatorship. To have to pay more than you may be able to afford to defend yourself against a possible wrong conviction is immorral at best and fundamentally wrong in my opinion.

I've had enough, I'm going for PM!
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[Kickstart]

[carlnicholson...]

Do I!!!

Where's Stinkwheel when you need him?!
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[carlnicholson...]

Why haven't Europe put a stop to this? They don't allow prisoners to get chilly, or have their TV's taken away, but innocent people are being financially forced to not take their legally given right to defend themselves against a false conviction??!!

WTF is happening with this country?

I smell an email to Andy Burnham, my MP.....
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[stinkwheel]

It's not an issue in Europe because they have an inquisatorial rather than an adversarial system.

As far as I understand it, in Europe the Judge/Magistrate sets out to find out what went on, rather than having two overpaid wankers arguing with one another in front of him and deciding who was the winner.
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[kitty kat]

I challenged my conviction for speeding and failing to give the name of the driver. I did not use the clerk of the court or any lawyer, I defended myself and walked away innocent. All I cost the system was the time it took up in court of which there was a lot as it got adjourned many times.
It is absolute bullsh!t that you can get legal aid for crimes that carry a non custodial sentence (ie speeding), whether on a low income or not.
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[igiyf]

business is business step foot in the court room youve received a service..why shouldt you be charged

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The paper of the twitching curtains of Middle England.
It is bull.
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