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Fahd
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: New Quads getting a little 'fruity'? Reply with quote
I'm buying a road quad at some point in the future and a quick eBay search came up with these grand inventions Neutral as nice as the alloys may look, how exactly is one expected to be able to turn the thing? surely it'd be far worse than a car without power-steering and large alloys wheels (which is bad enough as it is).

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250CC-New-09-ATV-Quad-Racer-Kart-Buggy-Sport-Road-Legal_W0QQitemZ200270953727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item200270953727&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250CC-New-09-ATV-Quad-Racer-Kart-Buggy-Sport-Road-Legal_W0QQitemZ200273089282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycles?hash=item200273089282&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting

Strangely enough I find them quite attractive to look at...

Neutral

Also the youtube video on the first link made the quad look stupidly fun to thrash silly.
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
On loose surface, with knobblies, they'd be a blast. I've ridden the 2-stroke 250s and they were an absolute hoot. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:15 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nevermind power steering and large wheels without a rear diff they are gonna be a right pain in the arse cornering fast especially with the bigger tyre's.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
plugger147 wrote:
Nevermind power steering and large wheels without a rear diff they are gonna be a right pain in the arse cornering fast especially with the bigger tyre's.


Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this improve cornering because there would be more contact from the Quad with the road-surface. I've been told by other Quad bike owners with regular tyres that their Quad over-steers a lot. I assumed this was to counter that problem but I can see it being quite heavy to turn, especially at low speeds.

P.S I actually think it sounds pretty nice for a 4-stroke, single cylinder...
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: New Quads getting a little 'fruity'? Reply with quote
Fahd wrote:


...as nice as the alloys may look, how exactly is one expected to be able to turn the thing? surely it'd be far worse than a car without power-steering and large alloys wheels



One must grow some arm muscles. Cars didn't always have power steering.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fahd wrote:
plugger147 wrote:
Nevermind power steering and large wheels without a rear diff they are gonna be a right pain in the arse cornering fast especially with the bigger tyre's.


Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this improve cornering because there would be more contact from the Quad with the road-surface. I've been told by other Quad bike owners with regular tyres that their Quad over-steers a lot. I assumed this was to counter that problem but I can see it being quite heavy to turn, especially at low speeds.


In my brief experience, I don't think so - with a solid rear axle and rear-wheel-drive, I found to get a decent medium-speed turn on tarmac I had to really work at it. It basically wound up with me throwing my bodyweight into the turn enough that one of the rear wheels would lift or at least start to slip, and then the turn's easier.
Otherwise you just wind up with the locked back wheels trying to drive you straight forward all the time.

Turning the wheels whilst static I wouldn't be too worried about - you've a fair amount of leverage at the bars, and it's not like you've a massive amount of weight pressing the tyres into the tarmac.
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id be more worried that are are not any 'make'. Id advise you go for a well known brand like suzuki, yam etc. got a feeling the products you linked to are the quad equivelent of the jinlun etc bikes that we usual tell people not to buy.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Keir_K3 wrote:
id be more worried that are are not any 'make'. Id advise you go for a well known brand like suzuki, yam etc. got a feeling the products you linked to are the quad equivelent of the jinlun etc bikes that we usual tell people not to buy.


Very true, a scary prospect if these are poorly built. I wouldn't like the idea of something snapping whilst I'm trying to ride that thing. Neutral

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One must grow some arm muscles. Cars didn't always have power steering.


Agreed, I've driven a fair few, even the small cars without power-steering like old Ford Fiestas are far from fun to turn at low speed.
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Buy an old 205 GTI 1.9, that'll soon sort your arms out Wink
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
looks like he broke it at the end of that vid,
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fahd wrote:


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One must grow some arm muscles. Cars didn't always have power steering.


Agreed, I've driven a fair few, even the small cars without power-steering like old Ford Fiestas are far from fun to turn at low speed.



Try 30 year old 2 ton Land rovers with 750X16 tyres then complain. Old Ford Fiesta's are easy and if you think they are heavy you REALLY need to build some muscle mass. Well that or learn to edge slightly back and forth while steering at low speed.
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sickpup wrote:
Fahd wrote:


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One must grow some arm muscles. Cars didn't always have power steering.


Agreed, I've driven a fair few, even the small cars without power-steering like old Ford Fiestas are far from fun to turn at low speed.



Try 30 year old 2 ton Land rovers with 750X16 tyres then complain. Old Ford Fiesta's are easy and if you think they are heavy you REALLY need to build some muscle mass. Well that or learn to edge slightly back and forth while steering at low speed.


Or I could just drive my car which has great power steering... Mr. Green

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looks like he broke it at the end of that vid,


How? Confused
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 22 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: New Quads getting a little 'fruity'? Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Fahd wrote:


...as nice as the alloys may look, how exactly is one expected to be able to turn the thing? surely it'd be far worse than a car without power-steering and large alloys wheels



One must grow some arm muscles. Cars didn't always have power steering.


Try riding a sidecar lmao
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it makes a "crack" noise and he looks down and says something in packy talk that i dont understand, like oh oh.
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Just no.

They look appaling and you can tell from the advert that they are more low quality crap.
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salty21 wrote:


it makes a "crack" noise and he looks down and says something in packy talk that i dont understand, like oh oh.



Can you at least spell your racial slurs correctly. Rolling Eyes
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sickpup wrote:
salty21 wrote:


it makes a "crack" noise and he looks down and says something in packy talk that i dont understand, like oh oh.



Can you at least spell your racial slurs correctly. Rolling Eyes


Agreed. Typical uneducated racist.

At Jenks: I do intend to ride a side-car at some point, I didn't think they'd be particularly hard to turn though to be honest.
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