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I feel the same in a way, that's why there are a lot of our expats in a lot of other countries.
But we are not exactly going to change our name to 'mediocre Britain' are we.
But on the flip side of that coin I think it has only been like this in the last decade or so. We were a huge power in the WWs and stuck it out with the best of them. And we were great and led by great people.
At the moment we are not led by great people and dont really work together as a country to live up to our name. ____________________ My current bikes are - YZF-R1 & GS 500 E
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Maybe it is because when had such a high GDP for the size of our country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Also our standing in the world and the fact we are a "super power" even though we are a tiny little island.
The fact we won 2 world wars.
The fact we had the the biggest empire in history at one point not too long ago (1922)
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Great Britain has "little man" syndrome.
No-one can quite tell why they fear it slightly, but they do.
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| chris-red wrote: | Maybe it is because when had such a high GDP for the size of our country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Also our standing in the world and the fact we are a "super power" even though we are a tiny little island.
The fact we won 2 world wars.
The fact we had the the biggest empire in history at one point not too long ago (1922)
There are many things that make this country great, and I am proud to be from it. |
The thing is though this is all in the past,
Im not sure how as a country on our own we can be seen as a superpower, i guess it depends on how you classify a superpower, but in a war, excluding nukes, i cant see us winning against many countrys around the world purely because of our rather puny size
We only won the wars because of the backing we had and i very much doubt in another world war with the same countries our side would come out so well.
We did have the biggest empire but the key word there is did.
We may have submarines with nukes but nuclear warfare is a pretty moot point since the retaliations from the nuked countries allies would pretty much see off civilization as we know it.
Im still proud to be from here dont get me wrong, although theres a few things that could do with a change.
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The point of the Great in Great Britain is for egotistical purposes.
It works well when you REALLY believe the nomenclature.
If you BELIEVE you are great, then you will be more likely to actually be great (or at least a percentage of it).
The problem with this country is that people are starting (exactly as you have) to question whether "we" (and I use this term advisedly, not actually BEING British myself) really are great.
Of course you are.
Just not as great as New Zealanders.
New Zealand is in just as diabolical situation as the UK, maybe not quite so bad - due to not having the really rather careless loss of the british-empirical thing to cope with, but NZers (and Aussies) just have this mentality of "Fuck we're great". And so they are.
's all about attitude to oneself, innit.
Well, fukkit, I know what I mean.
But then I would, cos I'm great, you see  ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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meh, im half irish but historicly ive got even less to be proud of on that side (no offence to any irish guys here) apart from some nice scenery. (It has to be one of the most beautiful and underated countries ive been to, if you ever get a chance to go around the ring of kerry, take it )
Back to good ole' britain anyway, We dont have much in the way of industry anymore, we dont have much in the way of mining either, pretty much all we do have at the moment is tourism, i guess thats something were not going to loose either since as a nation we have so much history.
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I thought "Great Britain" was just a name. Just like Barney, or Gladys.  |
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But UK GDP is fraudulent, in that our GDP is based upon the notion that wealth = debt
Accountants say Assets - liabilities = Capital
Labour uses the formula of Liabilities + assets = Capital
Easy question you have £0 , you borrow £100 , are you wealthier? ... no since you have £100 liability you are still at £0. UK GDP is funded by debt which is why we have 3.2 trillion government debt and 2-5trillion personal debt..
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Also our standing in the world and the fact we are a "super power" even though we are a tiny little island. |
Not anymore we are not, Falklands happened tomorrow we would lose badly very very badly.
| chris-red wrote: | The fact we won 2 world wars. |
Only because the US and ANZAC forces supported us, infact we only won WWII because Hitler was the leader of the enemy and Hitler gifted us plenty of mistakes,
Ie Dunkirk if Hitler had ordered the Panzer divisions onto the Dunkirk beaches the 350,000 Allied soldiers would have been massacred and we'd have surrendered.
Stalingrad, if Hitler ordered what was it the 5th Army to go around Stalingrad and go for Chelyabinsk (tankograd) and Georgia , the Germans would have won WWII, as Chelyabinsk would be quickly converted to make germanised T34s and come D-day the infantry assaults on Normandy would have been met with 1000s of T34s and 1000s of Panzers as the battle of Kursk would never have happened.
| chris-red wrote: | There are many things that make this country great, and I am proud to be from it. |
But thats just nostalgia all the things that made the country great are in the past and the past is the past. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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As Hellkat said, when you truly believe you are great, you are. McGee always spouted stuff and how great he/his stuff was, sometimes subtly and all the young types from then loved him, hell I kinda miss him about.
We are great, because we say we are although if we're invaded between now and new year, we'd be fucked. I do't know how may troops etc we have here but I know I read a paper sayin we have less than 15 aircraft in active service.
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Politically the United Kingdom consists of Great Britain (England, Scotland, and Wales) & Northern Ireland.
The name Great Britain was coined by the celts from Bretagne (aka Brittany) when they came here they kinda noticed that these islands were a bit bigger than where they were from. So they called it bigger Bretagne, Grand Bretange (Greater Brittany) or as we know it roughly translated as Great Britain.
So the common misconception is that it's great as in a great place to be whereas it's actually grand as in big, see Wikipedia arcticle: Great Britain - Etymology so what's being described is the quantity not the quality. ____________________ My claim to fame: Austin Vince nicked my pen... |
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When i used the title i meant it as a kind of double entendre, with added sarcasm via the inverted commas, im well aware that the great in great britain isnt an implication of how great a nation we are
english AS level pays off
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i think people are starting to miss the point a bit here.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 319 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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