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stoned38
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: New to biking: What bike???? Reply with quote

Hi!

Im 16 (17 in september) and im doing my cbt next week. im goin to wait until september to get a 125, rather than getting a 50 now and having to change. I just wondered if anyone could give me some advice as to what bike to get? i love the Aprillia rs125s, however i have been advised by a dealer against this, as he thinks it would be to hard to controll as a first bike. he reconmended the yamaha Ybr brand new.

After speaking to friends, looking on the internet etc... people have told me that not only will i get used to the rs quite quickly, but that the ybr is notoriously unreliable?

Can someone unbiased with more knowledge than my newbie self give me some advice please????

thanks Very Happy
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your A2 and get a bigger bike restricted to 33bhp.

This will mean you can buy any bike you want as long as you restrict it and the insurance is ok.

If you are going for a 125, get a CG125.

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i love the Aprillia rs125s, however i have been advised by a dealer against this, as he thinks it would be to hard to controll as a first bike. he reconmended the yamaha Ybr brand new


Well he would wouldn't he, to get you to spend more. An RS125 would be easy to control as a first bike, don't listen to him, either get the RS or go CG. Always buy used.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

as phanny says take your test ASAP , by 2008 the test gets harder , you'll only be 19 and there are plans afoot to get rid of CBTers period,

get thy A2 and get thy a 500 or something (they take the 33bhp restriction well) you be 19 have a full licence and a bike that'll last longer ,
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fuzz
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't think the YBR is less reliable than an RS. It's a four stroke for a start, small capacity four strokes are generally bullet proof (look at Hondas CG.) The RS has made a good starting bike for many people. I went for the NSR myself, pretty much the same bike.

They're not hard to control, but you have to ride them differently to a four stroke. Two strokes get going higher up in the rev range, so they need to be revved higher to pull away. Having said that, they offer much better performance than a four stroke of equal size. They also take more TLC though, and add the cost of 2t oil with petrol, and they are more expensive to run.

I say go for the RS if you like them, I don't think you'll have a problem handling it at all. Oh yeah, and don't but new for a first bike.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Stoned38.
Can't give you much advice as I too am a learner. I've got a Suzuki Maurauder & find it a lovely bike to ride (except for going up hill).
Good Luck anyway Thumbs Up
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stoned38
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for all advice guys! really appreciated! if anyone has anything else that can help it will be very welcome!
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stoned38
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a honda cbr 125? The insurance seems quite reasonable?
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phantomtek
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stoned38 wrote:
What about a honda cbr 125? The insurance seems quite reasonable?


So do the used prices.

I think if you don't want to get a bigger bike, or an unreliable 2 stroke but still want sports styling which having CG like performance a CBR125 may be the way forward.

They cost about £1300 second hand, and pretty new, do NOT buy new because you will lose so much. Also don't buy from a dealer.
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stoned38
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do look like the best bet. ive found several good 2005 models reletively near myself. will the CBR be difficult to drive as a first bike?
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got an rs125, and its great! looks good, handles brilliantly, and goes quite well too.
i'd say the only downsides are spending nearly 12 quid a litre on 2 stroke, and they arent too comfy.
but the pro's massively outweigh the cons Very Happy
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Kit
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experience there arent many bikes that are genuinely hard to ride, I mean why would someone build a bike that is a pain in the arse to ride.... there are just power bands that require tender care and fore thought, some riding positions may not suit you as a new rider.

I had a sit on an RS250 the other day for example and the riding position forces you forward putting more pressure on your wrists, a week or two ago I sat on a Bandit and it was a far more comfortable upright position, but I could also feel how my centre of gravity had gone up which isn't so good for handling.

Personally I would go for an A2 test and get yourself a restricted 400cc Suzuki Bandit or something similar to your taste.
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fuzz
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 13 Jul 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stoned38 wrote:
will the CBR be difficult to drive as a first bike?


Considering it's target market, no, it wont be difficult to ride. Wink
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