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nick_harris
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Problems with new ybr125 Reply with quote

So, had my bike for 6 days now and this morning i waved it good bye as it was picked up to be repaired Sad . So, the problem is:
I'd flooded the bike a couple of days ago (attempted a u-turn in 2nd and stalled) so left the bike for a while, then when it started left it to tick over for a bit and she seemed to be running fine. Then yesterday morning as i was about to set out for a ride the engine light flashed at me. But after stopping and re-starting the enginge the light had gone, so pressuming it was a bit of dirt in the electrics i rode off anyway. Got to my destination had a fag geared up and the bike wouldn't start Shocked . Managed to get it running eventually by fully opening the throttle while pushing the electric start and rode home. So, i think there's a problem with the fuel injector (or electrics controlling it) but i'm not sure. Also, the spark plug was covered in petrol but i've cleaned it now. And, on top of all that, it's now idling at about 2-3k rpm which worries me a bit. So, even thought it's currently being fixed just wanted to know if anyone knows what's up with it?

And and and, how effecient are yamaha for repairs generally?
Thanks. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 03 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be the choke that is stuck on, or a faulty sensor. When you pick it up ask what they did and for the old parts if they replaced any. This way you get a idea of what it was and to make sure they actually did something.
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nick_harris
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 07 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldy wrote:
It could be the choke that is stuck on, or a faulty sensor.


Apparently when the bike was assembled the wires leading to the temp' sensor were too tight so it'd put strain on the sensor. So they fitted a new junction to the sensor to lessen the strain; picked it up the other day, got a couple mile down the road...and the junction broke Crying or Very sad

Vincent wrote:
Am I hearing you right that this 125 is fuel injected Question Shocked If it is, I'm not sure that it's possible to flood. However, what I know about FI I can write on the end of my..........................er......................................finger Exclamation


That was my 1st thought, but seemed to be the only solution at the time...

After chatting with a couple mechanic mates of mine i think the fuel injector is starving the bike when i try to start it and flooding it when it's running. Either way i'm hoping it's fixed next time i pick it up!
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the 2007 onwards YBRs are fuel injected. More to do with complying with EU emmissions laws than performance etc. I personally prefer a carb as I know what's going on there. However, you can do some diagnosis of the FI system, it's documented in the Haynes book. From what I remember (having skimmed that section as I have the carbed YBR) there are some LEDs that indicate various errors in the system. If you have a multimeter you can test the temperature sensor, or at least you can with the carbed bike as it has one that controls a heating element on the carb when it's cold. If it's still causing trouble I can dig out the book and have a closer look after work if you like?
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 08 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you wait until the yellow system light has gone out before starting the bike ?

Your bike should tick-over fairly fast when cold before settling down when hot - although 3,000 does seem too high. The dealer should readjust the tickover at the first service when the engine has loosened up a bit, but it only involves turning a slotted brass screw on the right hand side of the 'carb' body.

My knowledge of EFI is limited but minor problems can sometimes be cured by disconnecting one of the battery leads or removing the fuse for about 15minutes.(I regularly do this to sort out a problem on my car). However this will probably clear down the fault logged in the system memory, but if its a persistent problem it will log it again soon enough if disconnecting it from the power doesn't sort it.

Also some systems assume that the throttle is always fully closed during the start up/check procedure (the few seconds when your yellow light is lit) if the throttle is in any other position it will cause fuelling problems, which is why you must ensure there is always sufficient slack in the throttle cable, so nothing is partially opened if the handlebars are on full lock in either direction.
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