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PostPosted: 00:03 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Ecstasy Reply with quote

Right, first of all no judging to be done.
Basically I have a strong urge to try ecstasy but I want to be very well informed before I do so.
What should I be aware of?
What are the worst things that could happen?
What effect can I expect?
How long does the effect last?
etc. Can someone who has REAL experience with this (it's easy to read off a book) explain a little about it?
Thanks
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: Ecstasy Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
Right, first of all no judging to be done.
Basically I have a strong urge to try ecstasy but I want to be very well informed before I do so.
What should I be aware of?
What are the worst things that could happen?
What effect can I expect?
How long does the effect last?
etc. Can someone who has REAL experience with this (it's easy to read off a book) explain a little about it?
Thanks


First off, try it in a comfortable environment, with people you know and trust around you.

Be aware of who it is from, and what type it is(what it's cut with etc)
Be aware of your fluid intake, people overexaggerate this problem, yes you get thirsty, but you yourself know how much water you are drinking.
Worst thing that could happen, realistically, drink too much water. Or take too many.
The affect will vary depending on the environment, but generally you will feel unprecedented levels of happiness, a very light feeling, unexplainable love towards everyone and a bit distant at times. Don't panic when you body starts to do weird things, tense up and that. Don't grind your teeth, even if it feels good lol
The length of the high will vary from pill to pill, and depending on how many you have, how you drop them etc.

Why do you want to try it so much?


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PostPosted: 00:13 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: Ecstasy Reply with quote

Double post, nothing to see here
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because alcohol is fun and all, and it's not like I can't have fun sober (am actually very good at it), I just want to try something new. Can't afford to do it often enough to get addicted anyway Razz
I'd definately try it in a club.
How much would you expect to pay for a pill? (I'd take half to calibrate myself)
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have a history of anxiety, paranoia any mental illness stay well away, trust me.

Don't be fobbed off by what pills you get. Someone give's you a well know pill maybe a mistubishi doesn't matter what they say, every batch is different. cut with all sorts of shite, made in some shitty warehouse in a skanky location.

It's always been a bit of hit and miss with me, 80% of the time i fucking loved it. Very very euphoric feelings, as well as a huge sense of being loved up. you can literally stare at yourself in love with yourself for a long time.

colours are very vivid and enhanced and you get a huge music appreciation (electronic) good as im into my trance etc. you will get hot and bothered, although you might not notice it. drink plenty of water (much more that you normally would) and do them on a full stomach if you are not experienced. if i were you i would double drop and leave it at that , see how you get on. remember these beauties take a while to kick in, over an hour so just because you don't feel anything immediately doesnt mean to say you should take any more.

i would try it in a comfortable environment at first, ie a few mates round yours or vice versa and see how you get on. I don't touch that stuff anymore as i've had problems and i've seen a friend fall into a coma and spend a fair amount of time in hospital.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point about gurning. when you are on E its a good idea to always have some gum in your mouth. after a couple of nights gurning on the trot the mucles in your jaw being to really fucking cain. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
Because alcohol is fun and all, and it's not like I can't have fun sober (am actually very good at it), I just want to try something new. Can't afford to do it often enough to get addicted anyway Razz
I'd definately try it in a club.
How much would you expect to pay for a pill? (I'd take half to calibrate myself)


It's really something else in a club.
Probably around 4 or 5 euros each in Spain.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love hard electronic music. Harcore, gabber and the likes. Must sound amazing when on a atrip Laughing
Is it a bad idea to mix with alcohol? I can imagine it is
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the above.

Not tried it myself, and have no desire to, however purely from a scientific and medical basis, most problems encountered are due to a) it being cut with something unpleasent or b) people drinking excessive water, thus diluting the electrolytes in the blood resulting in a cerebral oedema (brain swelling) thus killing you. The simple way to avoid this if you insist on drinking copius amounts of water is to consume salty food products such as crisps or peanuts.

There is of course dehydration as well, but the solution to that is rather simple.

I doubt you'll get much of the real experience from being told about it, although it might give you an idea. Take for instance explaining coke/speed/hell even beer intoxication to someone and it do it justice, or make it sound too appealing to be honest haha.

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PostPosted: 00:26 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM sent (in a minute). I'd avoid listening to most of the people on here. Few in the know will raise their head, and most are just recycling second rate knowledge they hear of their neighbours dogs uncle.
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it, you'll enjoy it.
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you mean by alcohol as in being pissed already or drinking while on E as all you will really want is water - and it tastes amazing Cool

Different things happen to different people so you will just have to experiment, just be careful. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been there and done that many years ago. When they where actually good and worth it. Few years ago I tried one and you needed more than one to get anywhere. Didnt go to addict stage just a stupid teen stage and a bit after to try it. Remember having a nice chewed mouth on me to. Think I must have had a death wish or something. I used to throw up on the come up though and talk crap. I went off them quickly as I got bad depression after and anxiety which ever actually left me. Didnt really have a bad experiance like oding but the after wasnt good at all.
Hilucinations where funny though.

Wouldnt touch them ever again though. pain killers freak me out ffs. But thats my own personal thoughts on them. Wouldnt reccomend anyone but then you have to learn for yourself. Thought of drugs just turn me now. I had a lot of percription crap in between.
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
Been there and done that many years ago. When they where actually good and worth it. Few years ago I tried one and you needed more than one to get anywhere. Didnt go to addict stage just a stupid teen stage and a bit after to try it. Remember having a nice chewed mouth on me to. Think I must have had a death wish or something. I used to throw up on the come up though and talk crap. I went off them quickly as I got bad depression after and anxiety which ever actually left me. Didnt really have a bad experiance like oding but the after wasnt good at all.
Hilucinations where funny though.
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See, that's the kind of wishy washy crap I was hoping to avoid.

1) It's not addictive. At all. Well, not physiologically anyway. Just cos you enjoy it more then booze (highly likely) and therefore want to do them whenever you go out, doesn't make you an addict. Is someone an alcoholic because they expect booze everytime they go to a club?

2) A death wish. From MDMA?!?! More people die per year from choking on cabbage or overdosing asparin. Completely pure and taken by someone with a functioning brain it's 99% safe, as there is speculation it withers the neurons that release serotonin over time (as opposed to the known fact alcohol does almost the same, in addition to major organ damage elsewhere).

When you see the kind of shit skagheads get away with pumping STRAIGHT into their veins, for several months, you slacken your own panic about what goes in your stomach a tad.

Just reminded me though svedo, two golden rules (that can't be broken);

1) No taking if you have a lot of allergies. At least not shitty pills, you'd only want to risk very good quality crystal.

2) No taking if you are on SSRI anti-depressants. Search 'Serotonin Storm' on wikipedia if you need to know why.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ecstasy??
You'd be lucky to find any. Plenty of pills made of god knows what, but not alot of MDMA going on in there IMO.......
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 01:16 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
2) No taking if you are on SSRI anti-depressants. Search 'Serotonin Storm' on wikipedia if you need to know why.


Yeh no takey takey if you have any kind of mental illness. The paranoia whilst on pills can be very intense and anxiety can last for ages. Also any kind of depression you suffer from will see you crying the next day on your come down. (well i was watching the episode of the oc where Marissa dies)
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long do the visable effects last? How long after would you be able to tell if someone had been taking pills?
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just remembered that this might be the stupidest thing I could possibly do.
When I was about 11-12 (7-8 years ago) I had an epileptic seizure due to playing Fifa on a miniscule telly for like 5 hours. I was treated for a year with some drugs, but haven't had any symptoms or used the drugs for 6+ years. I'm guessing nobody here is qualified to tell me just how dangerous it would be for me to take a pill, but I've heard something about it being pretty dangerous with those conditions.
Apart from that I'm healthy and have no allergies or illnesses.
EDIT: https://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/provoke_drugs
Seems I'm in the clear as the only thing they mention is that you can forget to take your medication pretty much...
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
bonny_ricardo wrote:
2) No taking if you are on SSRI anti-depressants. Search 'Serotonin Storm' on wikipedia if you need to know why.


Yeh no takey takey if you have any kind of mental illness. The paranoia whilst on pills can be very intense and anxiety can last for ages. Also any kind of depression you suffer from will see you crying the next day on your come down. (well i was watching the episode of the oc where Marissa dies)


I've mentioned 5-htp to the lad already. And believe me, I'm a severe manic depressive. A bit of will power on the come down was fine (before discovering 5-htp), and hell, a day of crying at chick flicks is always a good laugh Laughing
It's a particular good drug for me precisely because I'm such a miserable cunt, means being happy, huggy and friendly is like a holiday Thumbs Up

The reason you don't take pills on SSRI's is due to their action. They work by stopping you removing serotonin from your synapse... MDMA forces you to release serotonin en masse. The two together cause serotonin poisoning basically. Full on rushing is early symptoms of serotonin storm, but the full shebang is rather savage. Hyperthermia and coma Thumbs Up
Definitely not worth the risk taking both, but laying off the pills for a day or two might be just about excuseable (depending what they're for, mum has them for migraines for example).
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
How long do the visable effects last? How long after would you be able to tell if someone had been taking pills?


Lol, spoken like a 16 year old living with the rents Wink

Very butch.

Basically, you don't want to bump into your parents until you've been to sleep. You'll talk shit, sweat, gurn and have big arse saucer pupils pretty much til you go to bed. Right at the end its less noticeable, but they certainly won't think it's just booze.

Next day expect to look (and act) incredibly hungover. And don't plan any lunches with people who you have to be nice to but irritate you. You won't be nice.

In fact fuck this thread, dammit people. Find a copy of Human Traffic to watch.
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PostPosted: 02:22 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one of the lucky ones apparently. No hangover (feel right chipper the next day) and no come-down/depression to talk of. I can be mildly ratty for a couple of days, but very easy to control once conscious of the tendency.

Don't get too hot (dancing too much usually), don't drink too much water and take your time having a piss so you can actually get some out (you can if you find the right technique, mostly patience and muscle-control).

Don't do pills, they're utter shite. Find decent quality crystal.

Don't do too much, eg "I can't feel anything happening, I better do some more!" Give the first dose at least an hour, and if still nothing do half the original amount. If still nothing you were sold a pup. With crystal you want no more than an amount the size of a largish grain of rice for your first dose. If it's pure that'll give you a damn good buzz. Don't chase it too soon. The first dose gives you the best rush, but after that your seretonin has depleted and you won't feel it so good anymore, the buzz will change. Still nice, but don't hunt the rush or you'll make yourself ill. Slow and steady through the night (one dose an hour absolute max, one every two hours if you're inexperienced. There's no hurry, you'll get it better next time you do it). Find your limits by approaching them slowly over a number of sessions, not by steaming past them first time out. Remember, quality (strength) varies from purchase to purchase. I never do more than five or six doses in a session (typically from about 7pm until 9am next morning). If you start gurning and can't see straight you've done enough, time to stop.

Don't do strong booze or any other stimulant drugs with it. People do, as have I, but it's risky. Some people have the constitution of an ox and can take liberties, others die.

When you've got it sussed it's time for candy-flipping (doing it with acid). Veeery nice! Thumbs Up Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would listen to Bonny on this one, I've done more pills than I care to remember and researched alot about them too, so I know exactly what happens when on them.

Use pillreports.com and find out what it is in the pill you have before you have it, but I would say don't bother with pills and just get some crystal MDMA as there is little to no MDMA in pills these days, mostly filled with speed (if your lucky) or BZP/MCPP etc.

As said, Human Traffic is actually a perfect depiction of people on pills, good pills, so much so that I actually suspect they gave them proper pills before a take!

With the quality of pills today I doubt you will get a comedown, I've only ever had one and that was on my first time on pills, they were full of speed and I had 6 Laughing It does make you very emotional the next day like Mark said.

Chewing gum is a must also. If you take a fair few you will start to trip a little, not a full on acid thing, just odd things, once on pink motorolas I thought my mate had whiskers! Laughing

They cost anything from about 50p to £3 depending where you get them!

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PostPosted: 02:32 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Some people have the constitution of an ox and can take liberties


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PostPosted: 08:43 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno about Spain, or even most of the UK, but certainly where I am alot of "ecstasy" is nothing like what it says on the tin. For example when I first started experimenting with class A's me and my mate got some grenades (pills with grenades on them) we really liked them so got a bag of 20, and the day after we polished them off we found out they were just 50% smack 50% speed Shocked

Just make sure you know what you're taking.

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