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PostPosted: 20:50 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Hidden passwords being /really/ hidden Reply with quote

Righto, I'll keep this brief.

My dad is struggling to get hold of the WEP passphrase for the wifi, but it is working fine on my mums laptop.

In her computer (network settings -> wifi(properties) -> wireless networks tab -> wifi(properties)) it shows the password.

Annoyingly though, it's not asterisked like normal. They're dots. Which seems to defeat freeware asterisk revealer programs.

Has anyone either got a better revealer, or a way to turn off the extra security?

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm just fiddle with the router settings? ,

and thus change the WEP key to something you will recall?
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be able to access the router from your Mums laptop. Find out what make it is and open up internet explorer. My router address is 192.168.0.1 and the username was Admin + Password was password

Just find out the make and you'll find the default settings.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

isnt it on the bottem of your router ? on a sticker might come under security code ?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

copy it to word?
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamrock wrote:
You should be able to access the router from your Mums laptop. Find out what make it is and open up internet explorer. My router address is 192.168.0.1 and the username was Admin + Password was password

Just find out the make and you'll find the default settings.


+1 if you cant get into the router then reset it > the reset button is on the back. Now you can access the router and change all the details, you will need to re-configure the router which isnt hard. Worst case scenario call your ISP to walk you through it.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set up belongs to dads company. He has admin rights and is freaked out by me showing him how to copy and paste things, let alone willing to let me 'loose' with his admin rights.

So basically, I can't fuck about with much.

It does have a 'default acess' sticker;
ip address=, user=admin, pass=password

(a=letter, x=number)

FCC ID - aaxxxxxxxxx
IC ID - xxxxa-xxxxxxxx
Mac (Lan) - xxxzxzzzxxxz
Mac (wlan) - xxxaxaaaxxxa
Serial - xaaxxaaaxxxxx

Make is netgear.

Like I say, don't want to kill it. Dad is FD for a company circling the drain, if the internet dies he will actually evict me.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 08 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

By logging in as long as you don't change any settings you will be fine, all you're doing is looking through them.
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried to log on via IP.

Coming up with 'Protected Object - The object on the Rompage server is protected'

Right Confused

How easy is it to sort out the router if I reset it? I'm guessing not very. Oh well, we'll see if the IT guy comes up trumps tomoro with a password.

Embarassed

^Me holding my breath
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What IP are you using to access your router??
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hold on a sec, ill come to the rescue....

Get this

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wirelesskeyview.zip

If its been stored in windows then this will retrieve it from one of your other computers Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA_temporary wrote:
hold on a sec, ill come to the rescue....

Get this

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wirelesskeyview.zip

If its been stored in windows then this will retrieve it from one of your other computers Very Happy


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PostPosted: 01:58 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. Small problem. I got this off of it;

==================================================
Network Name (SSID): River-Wireless
Key Type : WEP
Key (Hex) : 33b774d86c926df667966433a0
Key (Ascii) : 3·tØl’mög–d3 
Adapter Name : Atheros Wireless Network Adapter
Adapter Guid : {2BF4C922-3244-47C4-828E-289DA79FC97A}
==================================================

When I went to copy and paste the Key (Hex) field into the Hex Key edit bar, it cut it off at 10 characters.

Thinking
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PostPosted: 03:19 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

try using the ascii key 1st, copy n paste, if not then try 128bit wep Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA_temporary wrote:
try using the ascii key 1st, copy n paste, if not then try 128bit wep Very Happy


I didn't try the ascii (that's blatantly not going to work, surely), but tried the key in both encryptions.

Tis too long.

I was wondering if there was some way to generate the passphrase from the WEP hex?
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
CaNsA_temporary wrote:
try using the ascii key 1st, copy n paste, if not then try 128bit wep Very Happy


I didn't try the ascii (that's blatantly not going to work, surely), but tried the key in both encryptions.

Tis too long.

I was wondering if there was some way to generate the passphrase from the WEP hex?


The ASCII key is the same as the Hex key, they're just written in ASCII and Hexadecimal expressions, respectively.

You don't "generate" the passphrase from the Hex.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nebzor wrote:

You don't "generate" the passphrase from the Hex.


Aye, but the Hex is generated from the passphrase? So I was just curious if it could be put back (as in if it were a straight code). I don't really understand encryption.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, just tried it to be sure.
Ascii is 12 characters long, 64bit wants 10, 128 wants 28.
Tried putting that WEP key into the 128, then even rewrote it with capital letters (just in case).

Bum.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Nebzor wrote:

You don't "generate" the passphrase from the Hex.


Aye, but the Hex is generated from the passphrase? So I was just curious if it could be put back (as in if it were a straight code). I don't really understand encryption.


It's not encryption.

All ASCII characters are represented by a decimal number. The 'Hex' is just these decimal numbers in hexadecimal notation, i.e. base16.

E.g. base10 is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.
base16 (hex) is 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Key (Hex) : 33b774d86c926df667966433a0
Key (Ascii) : 3·tØl’mög–d3


Bonster, what are you entering the code into?

Is it windows wifi or a application from the wifi card vendor like linksys or dlink?


When using the hex key try using a : after every 2 digits

And just to chk, u are using the wep key finder prog on the computer that is correctly connected to the network yeah?


I have another option for you if that aint working.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Using the Netgear program that came with the drivers. It correctly found the network (and others), so I trusted it not to be shit.

Now you mention it, it might be worth doing it that way.

As for where I got the WEP key, twas off my mum's laptop which has been set up for the wifi by the company IT guy (who has promptly forgotten the passphrase Rolling Eyes).

He was remote accessing the ipconfig through DOS (of the wired in comp), which might have given him a result.

As for adding :, I don't think that will work in the netgear set up as it limits the characters you can put in. Will try a windows wizard.

Tis on XP pro by the way.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The xp wifi wiz should auto detect what type of encryption you have.

Good luck,
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA_temporary wrote:
The xp wifi wiz should auto detect what type of encryption you have.

Good luck,


Meh. I give up for the second. Just tried that, no obvious joy. Dad reckons hes got the codes, so will wait and see.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If ur a bit handy using a live cd, then backtrack has a wep cracker (i aint paid for inet in 2years)

watch this video, its really is that easy

https://www.mefeedia.com/entry/spoonwep-for-noobs/10798821/
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, IT guy at work reckons he found the details on his office wall Rolling Eyes

However, the password doesn't work. Its only 12 characters long (Riverpub1994) so I can't enter the fucker in the windows WEP phase bit.
And it doesn't do anything through the netgear one.

Made even worse by the netgear software refusing to tell you if it hasn't worked. It just doesn't change.

Arse.

So, any more clever plans?
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