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Howling TerrorOutOfOffice
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 15 Jan 2009    Post subject: Top Tip i think Reply with quote

Hi, when i first started riding i noticed i was having to correct the bike midcorner, mostly just rolling off or on the throttle, or countersteering more. Until i learnt about vanishing points.
eg Entering a left hand bend with no view around the bend or how severe the bend was i'd be in the middle of my lane not looking far enough ahead, hence the late corrections.
Anyways here's a youtube clip explaining vanishing points.


https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb2gZVuoNU4

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PostPosted: 00:14 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also known as 'limit points'. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watch all the vids from advanced biker. They're a bloody damn good watch Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was indicated to me by my instructor when I was on my DAS that vanishing points can sometimes be hard to pick up when on a bike, and that concentrating on them can mean that you fail to pick up other cues and hazards.

The suggestion was, instead, that you concentrate on the 'distance in which you can stop' method in preference, at least for everday driving. If you're going for a hoon, this might not be quite so useful, mind!

Just my €0.02, obviously...
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

multijoy wrote:
It was indicated to me by my instructor when I was on my DAS that vanishing points can sometimes be hard to pick up when on a bike, and that concentrating on them can mean that you fail to pick up other cues and hazards.

The suggestion was, instead, that you concentrate on the 'distance in which you can stop' method in preference, at least for everday driving. If you're going for a hoon, this might not be quite so useful, mind!

Just my €0.02, obviously...

You're correct in saying that you shouldn't just rely on vanishing points, but i disagree that vanishing points are hard to see on a bike as bike riders are able to get a better view of the road ahead.
Our height and road positioning give us the advantage.

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PostPosted: 13:05 - 17 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never knew about this, watched the vid and this has helped me to corner so much better!

most roads around here are country roads so its very helpful and i always found myself having to drop the throttle or correct my cornering
thanks for posting the vid Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 00:38 - 18 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit surprised that the instructor was giving her praise, even at the point where as she went through a bend she crossed over the white lines. Sure there wasn't a car coming the otherway at that particular moment, but it's still rather shit. What if there had been a biker coming the other way doing some speed? They wouldn't expect someone to be on the wrong side of the road.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 18 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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where as she went through a bend she crossed over the white lines

We all know crossing broken white lines is fine

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What if there had been a biker coming the other way doing some speed? They wouldn't expect someone to be on the wrong side of the road.

Having the best view when safe to do so is the main priority on roads, more view = longer time to react. i do reckon they were zipping along abit too quick at times, but the video only gives us an idea of what the speeds and views were really like.

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