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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Riding on a provisernal in germany? Reply with quote
As title. I plan to ride over to see a mate of mine in the harts mountains in Germany in the summer, it's only 2-3 days riding to get there so the distance isn't a problem.
But, would this be illegal on a uk prov licence and valid cbt certificate?
What else might there be problems with laws/rules wise?
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought you needed a full license to ride in Europe. Confused
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I /think/ you can get an international driving permit on a provisional licence, my dad told me he did it, but that was about 40 years ago.
Flashing that should be enough to get you out of most situations, however, that's not to say it's actually legal to ride there on a UK provisional!
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for that, will do a bit of research and see what I can find out.
Jamie.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
jamie stokes wrote:
Thanks for that, will do a bit of research and see what I can find out.
Jamie.

I be very intrested in what you find out too !!!!
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
All that way on a 50?!?!

wont it be a bit boring?
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can only ride abroad on a full UK licence
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dont you need to be 18 aswell ?

edit: apprently you need to be 18 for your internation driving permit

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DG_10023103

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PostPosted: 19:51 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
nick606 wrote:
Dont you need to be 18 aswell ?

edit: apprently you need to be 18 for your internation drivering permit

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/DG_10023103

From what i remember it varies across the EU
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 28 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: Riding on a provisernal in germany? Reply with quote
jamie stokes wrote:
As title. I plan to ride over to see a mate of mine in the harts mountains in Germany in the summer, it's only 2-3 days riding to get there so the distance isn't a problem.
But, would this be illegal on a uk prov licence and valid cbt certificate?
What else might there be problems with laws/rules wise?


Not that I do this sort of thing often, but when I wanted to visit a friend in france on a 125cc with my provi, I removed my L plates and rode as if I was a full licence holder. When in Meaux (Near paris) my friend told me that people do tend to get stopped from time to time. I then came up with the idea of going to a police station and reported my wallet missing, possibly stolen. I wasn't going to file a report, but I mentioned that I wouldn't be in the area long so if it was found could they contact me. The wallet contained the usual: Debit/Credit cards, ID, "FULL license" , money etc. I then asked for that branches phone number so I could contact them in the future if need be. This really paid off when I was stopped with my friend and they asked to see my passport/driving license that I don't have...

When questioned I told them I had lost it, but had the VO5, passport, insurance etc separate so I still had them. I then gave them the branch number and the name of the desk clerk who had taken my details. They phoned, it was confirmed, no more was asked. I rode away. Not totally recommended though, I personally thought I just got lucky Razz

Might be a desperate measure if you're not riding legally though. I know a lot of people will slate you if you do, but it's your choice not mine so I'm not going to judge.

Good luck though man, have a good trip if you go.
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PostPosted: 04:08 - 28 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't do it legally, you need to be 18 and hold a full licence, you can't get an International Driving Permit without a full UK licence anyway so it's of no benefit.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cycle it
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
eddclarke wrote:
All that way on a 50?!?!

wont it be a bit boring?


You get to see more of the scenery.

A guy on the FS1e forum rode through Germany, Spain and France when he was 16 back in '77.

It's a great read.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just go for it and sod them. loads of foreigners drive around with no license so why shouldn't a BCFer be any different?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Skudd wrote:
Just go for it and sod them. loads of foreigners drive around with no license so why shouldn't a BCFer be any different?


I'd be tempted to just go, too. You need to be 15 to ride a moped in Germany, but it's a written and practical test rather than just a CBT.

Might be worth asking the AA or RAC, and your insurance company. they'd have a better idea.
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