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colin1
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 14 Feb 2009    Post subject: recommend me some hard wearing tyres for a sports 600 Reply with quote

In the past, I've got race scrubs, or normal road tyres that are a bit on the soft side.

I've decided that I dont ride hard enough to need soft rubber, and would benefit far more from having a tyre that takes ages to square off due to being harder.

So please recommend me some.

nick sanders used continental road attacks i think, so im thinking of using them i think he got about 7000 miles out of a tyre

although it has occurred to me that as race scrubs are so much cheaper than new tyres, maybe i shd just stick to them and replace them a bit more often
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 14 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BT20/BT21 , I did France and Spain and helluva lot of commuting on them for my CBR and still have a fair bit of wear left on them , Kitty gets about 18-20K out of them too.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diablo Stradas would be my choice. Wet, dry, road or track they handled it all.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, bt021's are very long lasting and grippy in the wet and dry.
I actually had a pair of bt016's fitted today, the rear is a triple compound, the front a double compound.
Ive only done about 60 miles on them so far but im very very impressed with them.
Lots and lots of feel, fast turning but also very stable - my bike feels totally different now Cool Thumbs Up
Only time will tell how long they will last, but im guessing they should be pretty good, with them having a hard centre compound.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunlop roadsmarts

1) Cheaper than Michelin Pilot Road 2's - I got them fitted to the blade for 220 for a pair (PR2's would have cost me 235!). They're still dual compound
2) Consistently get better marks on road tests (when tested blind against competitor tyres) - see Bike, TWO, Ride etc and they all hold the roadsmart in high regard. TWO suggested the roadsmart as being the best winter tyres due to their ability to warm up quick and grip. Two tested their bike on track with a duke 848. Bike used a triumph sprint St and CB1000. Diablo stradas are comparable, but they're not dual compound. Same price mind.
3) I've scrubbed them off on my blade today (did 150 or so miles) on cold roads and DESPITE that, they gave me very good cornering stability, grip and feedback - very neutral and predictable handling.
4) I had them for 4000 miles on my 6R and they looked barely worn in! lots of tread left over, which is indicative of a sports touring tyre.

You ideally want a sports touring tyre, which is good enough for 90% of most riders, where the bike would reach its limits through the rider's ability, rather than the grip limit of the tyres! Buy your tyres based on how you ride and not on the type of bike you've got, which is why I've got roadsmarts on a 130bhp FireBlade and still feel confident on it.

Don't waste your money on sports tyres - BT016, Pilot Power 2CTs, Qualifier RR, Diablo Corsa III / Rosso's etc. You'll only get 3500-4000 from a rear at best!

My preference is the roadsmart, Craig seems to rate Diablo Stradas well. I personally hate bridgestone BT020/021's because once they square off, their performance and conering ability becomes VERY sketchy! Go with the roadsmats, dual compound, good value, great reviews, and if you like hooning in the weekends and commuting during the week, it'll offer the best performance (without much compromise i hasten to add). It's a neutral, predictable tyre.

And NO, I don't work for dunlop... and nor will i ever want to put michelins on my bike!
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DynaMight wrote:
Diablo Stradas would be my choice. Wet, dry, road or track they handled it all.


+1 from me. Just as usable as an 014 and last for at least 6000 miles.
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to agree with the roadsmarts, I went from 020s to them and never looked back, they really are amazing in the wet and get up to temperature nice and quick too.

Must admit though, my SP1 came with a brand new 016 on the front, and it's surprisingly good, just a same the 012 on the rear is quite a bit slower to warm up and start gripping.
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got Michi Pilot Road 2's.

Very impressed with em Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelin road 2ct should last ages. Even pirelli diablo's (the originals) would I imagine, last around 4k miles on the rear if youre not a hard rider.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem with Dunlop tyres is that they have Dunlop written on the sides of them. Very Happy

I am leaning towards having the Pilots Road 2's when I next need tyres on my R6. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only problem with Michelins is that they recall them because they fall apart!!! LOL
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the Conti` Road Attacks on my z750s, I personally think they are a very good tyre and excellent value for money, regularly getting 6000mls from a rear and have two frts hung in the garage with life left in them. All in i`m on my 3rd pair.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz you can get a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's for £200, no more than £220 fitted, i dont think the small price discrepency between PR2's and Roadsmarts is an issue, its which tyre is best,

and that is clearly the PR2, convenient how you got rid of the ninja as soon as the Michelin v Dunlop gauntlet was thrown down Razz, now you have a blade you might just be able to keep up with the PR2 Razz
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooly R6 wrote:
The only problem with Michelins is that they recall them because they fall apart!!! LOL


Don, I presume you didn't take heed of this little warning before you had them put on Wink Laughing

Fair enough it was only certain batches of the 2CT Pilot powers that got recalled!

The only thing michelin rubber will ever be used for is a for a extra large contraceptive coil device for a slag OR bell end constrictor for my cock to stop me from infecting the world with my offspring! And when their mascot is a fat man, it goes to show what sort of people michelin are catering for! Razz
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Titz you can get a pair of Michelin Pilot Road 2's for £200, no more than £220 fitted

Round & Black on Ebay are currently selling pairs of Pilot Road 2's for £173 plus £6.95 postage - A grand total of £180 all but five pence.

Another £20 (at the most) should see them fitted and balanced to loose rims at a friendly tyre place, so I reckon you can sort yourself out with the Pilot Road 2's for £200.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but I like supporting local businesses. That said, my mechanic sorted out my steering lock/head bearing issue for free, so Thumbs Up ... eventually they'll offer to do me a few favours for free.

Roundandback indeed do PR2s for 173 (roadsmarts are 165), but at the end of the day, I had D209 qualis on the 6R and was more than happy with their grip.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered some Dunlop D207e's on eBay.

£123 delivered.

Not a doubt in my mind whether they'll be good enough or not for the kind of riding I do on the bandit 12.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

207s are what effectively gave dunlop their "dunslip" reputation! I had them originally on the 6R then heard about the qualifiers. God the 207's were pretty damn shot so it didn't help either way.

That said, the new roadsmart compound will do it a load of favours though.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Titz wrote:
207s are what effectively gave dunlop their "dunslip" reputation! I had them originally on the 6R then heard about the qualifiers. God the 207's were pretty damn shot so it didn't help either way.

That said, the new roadsmart compound will do it a load of favours though.


Should be fun then. Mr. Green

I'll be happy with them if they can cope with the frequent 1st gear wheelies from traffic lights. They can squirm about all they want otherwise. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 15 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roadsmarts all the way. Very Happy
Had mine on for about 6000 miles now and theres still loads od tread to go on the back.

Saying that though, I had PR2`s on my old bike for about 6 months and they were good also, had more of a sporty profile tho.
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 17 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roadsmarts for me also, ok im only on a 125 but they seem brilliant Smile
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