R1 front end onto R6

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Okay, Picking an R6 up next week. And looking at sticking an R1 front end on there.

Not interested in people telling me not to do it etc, Because I am. Simple.

Just after an idea of what might need to be adapted or modified to make them fit. If any?

Looking at early R1 forks, So they have the blue spot calipers, same as the R6. So I'm guessing the Disks will be okay.

Gonna have R1 Clip-ons and yokes/bearings/stem etc.

I'd like to keep the R6 front wheel though. Making up new spacers isnt a problem. Just wondering if the spindles will be the same diameter and length etc.

Has anybody here tried or looked into doing this before?

Opinions please.

Ben

Keir · World Chat Champion Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Karma :

cant you just buy the R1? they are about the same price anyway ad you must have been riding long enough to make insurance managable. Confused

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Blue_SV650S · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Karma :

the early R1s and R6s shared the same front wheel, so the R6 wheel will be fine, you don't even need new spacers Wink

I am not sure the yokes are a direct swap, apart from that, I can't envisage any problems Thumbs Up

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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Nice to know the wheel will go straight in.
Means I can keep the galfer disks.

My only other concern is the Yokes/stem. I guess its all down to the length of the headstock tube?

Keir_K3, I'd loose my license or my life on an R1. I was a big enough wanker on the NC29.
An R1 will lift onto the back wheel at 100mph.
I'd end up killing myself.

Also tax and insurance will be more expensive on the R1.

Ben

Thom · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Karma :

for my own benefit and curioisty, what benefit does the R1 front end bring over the R6?

Im guessing theyre both standard forks as apposed to USD's?

Excuse my ignorance.
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

R1 forks are USD. Handling benefits, I doubt there are any. They probably share the same internals, Like the NC30 and NC35s.

But the Gold USD's just look infinitely better than the Silver painted fork legs on the RWU R6 forks.

Ben

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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

I suppose the unsprung weight is abit of a factor.

Although I am a fairly confident rider, I dont think I am extreme enough to benefit the difference in the spec of the forks.

I just think some USDs will make the bike look a bit more modern, And even more tarty.

The later R6's do come with USDs. Not sure why the older ones didnt.

Ben

4Stroke · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Karma :

Yeh, fairly strange since my ageing 91/92 zxr has USD forks.

From what I have seen (a friend has an older R6) and heard the R6's are flickable and agile enough for 99% of people to not worry about the apparent benefits let alone need them.

They do look good though. Thumbs Up

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Kwak's have always had USDs for some reason. The ZXR400s all had USDs im sure.

So did the GSXR400 actually.

It was just the Yamaha and the Honda that didnt.

Ben

nick606 · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Karma :

So your buying lukes r6 ?

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

I am.

Ben

Blue_SV650S · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Karma :

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Steve-D · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Karma :

Watching with interest, something I'd like to do with mine.
What I've found so far is.
You can use r6 wheel disc calliper.
You need, usd forks (obviously) bars top and bottom yoke.
The yokes need the r6 stem pressed into them.
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damz · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Karma :

are you going to change the front fairing as well? always wondered if that was possible as i felt the R1 fairings look better.
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

Nah, I like the look of the R6. I dont want it to look like ive tried to make it look like an R1. I just wanted USD forks because im a tart. Laughing

I was confident the brakes and wheel would fit, Just wasnt sure about the stem.

Can the stem bolt actually be pressed into the R1 yoke? I know I tried that with my Pit bike forks and the holes in the yokes were different sized so the stem just rattled around in the bottom yoke.

Ben

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

hmm, I suppose the only way to find out will be to get the R1 forks and go from there.

Ben

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

Has Luke been paid out for the bike yet?

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

What do you mean? Have I paid for it yet?

Ben

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

No I mean considering this bike is/was part of an insurance claim has Luke been paid out for it yet?

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Karma :

No idea.

Ben

sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

nick606 · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Karma :

Cat b means it cant be sold on doesn't it ?